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Old 06-03-2014 | 07:40 AM
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I called bs on this too until he forwarded the email to me.Yes his sim eval was canceled due to a reduction in hiring. I Read it myself.
If I'm lying I will cover all your flying for you this month and you take the month off with pay. Do I have a taker?
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Old 06-03-2014 | 07:42 AM
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Captain Tony, we already put our mouth where our money is! What did you think the 83% NO vote meant? Hello? You negotiating guys still don't get it! We don't want to work for ANYTHING less than what we make. They are already parking aircraft like they said they would before the vote...yawn.
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Old 06-03-2014 | 07:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Der Meister
I didnt know that xjt was doing a sim eval, they must have changed in the last few months....
I've heard if you fail the Delta knowledge test they let you do a sim eval in its place (scheduled at a later date). My guess is they are being more selective on applicants right now with the reduction in hiring. Last company notice said to expect 15/m.
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Old 06-03-2014 | 08:28 AM
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Originally Posted by flyguy94
I've heard if you fail the Delta knowledge test they let you do a sim eval in its place (scheduled at a later date). My guess is they are being more selective on applicants right now with the reduction in hiring. Last company notice said to expect 15/m.
Cog test, not knowledge test .... correct otherwise!
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Old 06-03-2014 | 09:07 AM
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This is great news for anyone flying for regionals. How else are these pax going to be flown? Maybe this flying will come back to mainline and cause a greater need for mainline hiring!
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Old 06-03-2014 | 09:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Yumav8r
This is great news for anyone flying for regionals. How else are these pax going to be flown? Maybe this flying will come back to mainline and cause a greater need for mainline hiring!
Or maybe UAL and DAL will just abandon the third tier markets we fly 50 seaters to as they're parked? That's my prediction.
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Old 06-03-2014 | 09:36 AM
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This message is hidden because Nevets is on your ignore list.

What? I can't hear you troll.
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Old 06-03-2014 | 10:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Nevets
Captain Tony, we already put our mouth where our money is! What did you think the 83% NO vote meant? Hello? You negotiating guys still don't get it! We don't want to work for ANYTHING less than what we make. They are already parking aircraft like they said they would before the vote...yawn.
This is all fine and good. No one wants you to take a pay cut or concession. For the love of all that is holy you gotta stop saying otherwise.

It is in all our interest to pattern bargain up the pay scale. But it is just amazing that the livelihoods of the thousands of ground workers, Fa, etc are not even on your radar. The success of your company is more than all about you.

You're calling a bluff and the axe man is in your living room. For my personal benefit don't take a pay cut. For the benefit of your coworkers you should negotiate in good faith. There is more to profitability than pay scales.
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Old 06-03-2014 | 10:57 AM
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Originally Posted by JustAMushroom
This is all fine and good. No one wants you to take a pay cut or concession. For the love of all that is holy you gotta stop saying otherwise.

It is in all our interest to pattern bargain up the pay scale. But it is just amazing that the livelihoods of the thousands of ground workers, Fa, etc are not even on your radar. The success of your company is more than all about you.

You're calling a bluff and the axe man is in your living room. For my personal benefit don't take a pay cut. For the benefit of your coworkers you should negotiate in good faith. There is more to profitability than pay scales.

FA's, ground workers, etc. have not spent 100K on their education, do not risk their livelihoods daily and have more lateral mobility than pilots. FA's and mechanics have their own unions to negotiate for them as well.

If pilots cave, the FA's and mechanics will the next targets.
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Old 06-03-2014 | 11:03 AM
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Originally Posted by JustAMushroom
You're calling a bluff and the axe man is in your living room.
I don't think he is calling a bluff, the rapid shrink of XJT is real! And yet we are not going to fly for less than what we make now. You can't pay us "fair" wages? Park the planes (or renegotiate your contracts with UA/DL/AMR).
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