He basically said the pilots are responsible for low wages. I don't see anything wrong with that. You only get what you negotiate.

In Dougie we trust

so did steven wolfe and glenn tilton. both losers at all times just like parker. you a dependent of parker?

I'm not sure what your point is? Where did these guys turn a profit?

...Save for the "Pagey"'s and the "Meyers"'s...And of course the MEC and idiots at PSA that WILL work for those kind of wages...

Yes it is amazing the audacity of some of these PSA guys. They come on here and try to act like they did no wrong - even justify it.
Somehow they seem to feel okay with their decision to further erode the industry for selfish gain. Maybe it is that they have underlying guilt they are trying to hide? In the end, Their conscience is no more clear than Dougbag - perhaps worse so because they turned on their own. Everyone knows the truth, whether they want to own it or not. Karma will visit them eventually.

Let's say that again, from a CFI perspective:

"I'd fly a - 9 for 23k a year, that's a 50% pay raise! More diapers and baby food for the little one! That thing has an MTOW of more than 3,000 lbs, TWO engines for multiengine time, and TURBINE engines at that - think of the logbook enhancement from all those darn C172 hours! I would get to fly for more than 40 hours a month?? Sign me up tomorrow!"

-Any current flight instructor-


I realize I may start a flame war. Just wanting to add some perspective.

If all you are doing is flying 40 hours a month and making 11.5k per year, then you are doing it wrong. Every new FO I have talked to lately was making more at the CFI level than first year pay at a regional. There is plenty out there.

Valid point. My current employer can't seem to hang on to instructors past 600TT, most of whom get a pay bump when they go on to an hour-building 135 op as an FO. That said, I would prefer to stay a CFI than to be in the airlines if end-career results were comparable. There's no yearly pay scale as a CFI.

Henry Ford didn't pay his workers the unprecedented sum of $5 to be nice or charitable. He did it because he knew that with that money his workers would then be able to buy is products, making his products that much more successful and profitable. American corporations have lost that lesson. Nobody thinks about "gee I've squeezed every penny out of my workers' wages, how come nobody wants my products anymore?"