Originally Posted by PeezDog (Post 1661856)

I agree with what other posters have said and what guys who ave been in the industry for years have said. Don't buy into this too much. That article above proves this song and dance has been played before.

Originally Posted by rickt86 (Post 1661844)

How did you get that number? The 824 flows right now are 500 seniority. More will defer, when the 824 ends I'd bet 750 total lifers.

Originally Posted by Cubdriver (Post 1661872)

This article Cliff quotes is not authoritative. It is based on Roger Cohen's opinion, and he is a motivated speaker at best, a paid representative of the Regional Airline Association. I urge anyone interested in the truth about the alleged pilot shortage to disregard his words entirely. Here's the article Cliff quoted, since he did not provide it in his post:

FlightGlobal article

If instead you want to hear an unmotivated opinion on the pilot staffing question, try the US Bureau of Labor Statistics, who says there will be a minor decline in the number of jobs for airline pilot jobs until the end of the decade (or 2022). Far from a shortage, there will actually be a surplus of pilots to some small degree. I am convinced this whole thing about a pilot shortage is cooked up by the aircraft industry to sell more airplanes, and the airlines to drive up pilot supply and drive down pilot wages (or keep them low).

OOC Airline Pilots and Commercial Pilots

http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/l...psab73e673.jpg

Originally Posted by Cubdriver (Post 1661872)

This article Cliff quotes is not authoritative. It is based on Roger Cohen's opinion, and he is a motivated speaker at best, a paid representative of the Regional Airline Association. I urge anyone interested in the truth about the alleged pilot shortage to disregard his words entirely. Here's the article Cliff quoted, since he did not provide it in his post:

FlightGlobal article

If instead you want to hear an unmotivated opinion on the pilot staffing question, try the US Bureau of Labor Statistics, who says there will be a minor decline in the number of jobs for airline pilot jobs until the end of the decade (or 2022). Far from a shortage, there will actually be a surplus of pilots to some small degree. I am convinced this whole thing about a pilot shortage is cooked up by the aircraft industry to sell more airplanes, and the airlines to drive up pilot supply and drive down pilot wages (or keep them low).

OOC Airline Pilots and Commercial Pilots

http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/l...psab73e673.jpg

Originally Posted by satpak77 (Post 1661878)

Outstanding work

One more credibility strike against the pilot-shortage-will-happen crowd.

Originally Posted by deftone (Post 1661886)

My FBO school is packed with new students in the last few months. Instructors flying 8am-8pm, often cant catch a lunch break. A big difference from last year. Maybe all these stories are having the desired effect of attracting fresh meat to the industry.

It helps that we are on the doorstep of IAH... easy to get SJS:D

Originally Posted by Cubdriver (Post 1661872)

This article Cliff quotes is not authoritative. It is based on Roger Cohen's opinion, and he is a motivated speaker at best, a paid representative of the Regional Airline Association. I urge anyone interested in the truth about the alleged pilot shortage to disregard his words entirely. Here's the article Cliff quoted, since he did not provide it in his post:

FlightGlobal article

If instead you want to hear an unmotivated opinion on the pilot staffing question, try the US Bureau of Labor Statistics, who says there will be a minor decline in the number of jobs for airline pilot jobs until the end of the decade (or 2022). Far from a shortage, there will actually be a surplus of pilots to some small degree. I am convinced this whole thing about a pilot shortage is cooked up by the aircraft industry to sell more airplanes, and the airlines to drive up pilot supply and drive down pilot wages (or keep them low).

OOC Airline Pilots and Commercial Pilots

http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/l...psab73e673.jpg

Originally Posted by eaglefly (Post 1661809)

Even at $50/hour, that's not all that great and there is still a HEAVY price to pay. You do realize you'd be treated like garbage to the point the $50/hour would no longer be worth it and within 12-18 months you would likely be seeking a non-regional airline position, yes ?

The regionals problems are FAR more then just pay. Ask 90% of Envoy, Republic or Endeavor pilots. The glam of the E-175 and mid-sized cities ad nauseum will wear off quickly after 12 months of complete disrespect and rampant contractual violations and abuse. It's gotten to the point, the regionals are considered "slums" for pilots and many will be extinct within a few years. I'd be VERY careful of going to a regional even if they were to offer $50/hour to start. They have no plans to truly solve their problems and the feeble efforts they are making now won't alter their destiny. Even if the regionals DID do the right things, it will take years to replenish the necessary resource of "the pilot" and it's WAY too late now. They are so far behind the power curve, many carriers are doomed to crash into non-existence. Until each carriers impact point is revealed, they will continue to ride the stick-shaker and pray for an open field that for many will never come. It's sad that the industry has done so well in improving the human performance of pilots in the aircraft, yet failed so miserably at the same time to achieve that with the "pilots" in the front offices.