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Old 06-21-2014 | 02:31 PM
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[QUOTE=Shiner;1669241]When traveling with the wife I usually wear business casual so I can take the Jumpseat if need be, but I've always got a seat in the back. We went to Mexico from dfw and paid $120 total for the both of us.

We still pay the fees for all first and business class flights. First class on a widebody will totally spoil you. I'd pay the fees every time for that seat and service.

Ha, I'm sure I'd be paying for it too. Great to hear it's possible to get past the terminal with the lady every once in a while. Great price.
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Old 06-21-2014 | 02:44 PM
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Originally Posted by gold
My experience is strictly based on the US Airways system. PSA pilots have higher priority than Awac and other non wholly-owns when it comes to jumpseating on US airways mainline flights just as they do with non-reving. I've shown up to the gate more than a few times at the last second and bumped Awac pilots of the jumpseat based on my priority level. Mainline pilots do have priority over wholly-owned pilots. Most airways planes do have two jump seats. Jumpseating is not allowed on US Airways for international flights. You have to list as a non-rev to go international on airways. Going International on Airways in fairly cheap. Anywhere from $50-120 for a round trip usually. Upgrade to first class is $100 each way for international flights. Some times you can get a first class upgrade for free.
That's awesome. Thanks for the Airways side of things. I was hoping the prices were right around there for int'l. Can't beat that upgrade price. Hopefully enough time off to be able to use it. That priority sounds nice with PSA.
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Old 06-21-2014 | 04:48 PM
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Originally Posted by snippercr
So you can bump a republic pilot and his family off a republic aircraft.
For Republic Flights under American branding... this should almost never happen. Republic pilots have no access to JetNet (program used to make, change, and cancel nonrev listings, check in, and to see AAL flight loads). They are required to e-mail the corporate office at least 5 days in advance to make a listing, and then receive standby tickets (first time you see your PNR) in the mail.

This system is so completely useless I can't image why any republic pilot would try to use their American benefits (though I have seen some try.)

We do have access for all the other codeshare nonrev systems.. this is only a problem for AA branding.
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Old 06-21-2014 | 08:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Final Fix
For Republic Flights under American branding... this should almost never happen. Republic pilots have no access to JetNet (program used to make, change, and cancel nonrev listings, check in, and to see AAL flight loads). They are required to e-mail the corporate office at least 5 days in advance to make a listing, and then receive standby tickets (first time you see your PNR) in the mail.

This system is so completely useless I can't image why any republic pilot would try to use their American benefits (though I have seen some try.)

We do have access for all the other codeshare nonrev systems.. this is only a problem for AA branding.
Skywest gets those same AA "benefits." Only your spouse and kids are eligible. Parents are not and if you're not married you can't designated a travel companion. Everyone has to pay a segment fee. Since I'm not married and have no kids and my parents can't use my benefits they're beyond useless. If I listed using our benefits I'd have to pay for something that I can get for free by listing for jumpseat.

I don't know who in management agreed to that crap.
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Old 06-21-2014 | 08:50 PM
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Originally Posted by gold
My experience is strictly based on the US Airways system. PSA pilots have higher priority than Awac and other non wholly-owns when it comes to jumpseating on US airways mainline flights just as they do with non-reving. I've shown up to the gate more than a few times at the last second and bumped Awac pilots of the jumpseat based on my priority level. Mainline pilots do have priority over wholly-owned pilots. Most airways planes do have two jump seats. Jumpseating is not allowed on US Airways for international flights. You have to list as a non-rev to go international on airways. Going International on Airways in fairly cheap. Anywhere from $50-120 for a round trip usually. Upgrade to first class is $100 each way for international flights. Some times you can get a first class upgrade for free.
Envoy pilots can also bump AWAC pilots out of the JS. We also have the same priority on USAir like PSA and PDT.
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Old 06-21-2014 | 10:52 PM
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UA for XJT we get sa0x priority on our own company and sa2x on Skywest. Sa5 on mainline or other regionals. UA can use vacation passes(which we don't have) to bump us off our own acft... F-up but that's the way it is. Definitely can make commuting interesting.
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Old 06-22-2014 | 04:46 AM
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Originally Posted by PilotJ3
Envoy pilots can also bump AWAC pilots out of the JS. We also have the same priority on USAir like PSA and PDT.

Any idea where Mesa fits into to this? I've emailed the union JS chair to find out exactly what the priority is for the US Jumpseat, but haven't heard anything back yet. Envoy is part of the wholly owned now? Is Mesa also on that level?


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Old 06-22-2014 | 05:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Shiner
Any idea where Mesa fits into to this? I've emailed the union JS chair to find out exactly what the priority is for the US Jumpseat, but haven't heard anything back yet. Envoy is part of the wholly owned now? Is Mesa also on that level?


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Mesa is not wholly owned, so they come down to Outside JS. It's my understanding that it's... USAir/AA, Wholly Owned (PSA,PDT,Envoy), then everyone else.
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Old 06-22-2014 | 05:35 AM
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Originally Posted by gold
My experience is strictly based on the US Airways system. PSA pilots have higher priority than Awac and other non wholly-owns when it comes to jumpseating on US airways mainline flights just as they do with non-reving. I've shown up to the gate more than a few times at the last second and bumped Awac pilots of the jumpseat based on my priority level. Mainline pilots do have priority over wholly-owned pilots. Most airways planes do have two jump seats. Jumpseating is not allowed on US Airways for international flights. You have to list as a non-rev to go international on airways. Going International on Airways in fairly cheap. Anywhere from $50-120 for a round trip usually. Upgrade to first class is $100 each way for international flights. Some times you can get a first class upgrade for free.
Envoy pilots are allowed to be on the Jumpseat for international flights on AA. Hopefully this doesn't change with the merger. Also you can "Jumpseat" on UAL or DAL internationally as long as there is a seat in the back open for you. Totally free leaving the States and just have to pay the international taxes on the way back. Crews will usually give first or business if open.
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Old 06-22-2014 | 06:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Shiner
Any idea where Mesa fits into to this? I've emailed the union JS chair to find out exactly what the priority is for the US Jumpseat, but haven't heard anything back yet. Envoy is part of the wholly owned now? Is Mesa also on that level?


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Envoy has always been wholly owned! PSA and piedmont were wholly owned by USairways now all three are wholly owned under AAG. Mesa is not so your travel benefits are subject to what was negotiated under your contract to do AAG flying.
As far as the jump seat goes, usually you have priority on your own metal.
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