Per hr amt to leave a non flying job to fly?
06-25-2014 | 07:56 AM
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We have FA's that make LESS than federal minimum wage when you calculate their duty hours for ready reserve + flying duty for the month. I don't know how this is not illegal. Pilots aren't much above that..
We should at least be paid federal minimum wage for every hour we are "required" to be on duty sitting at the airport + flight pay. I don't know how a crappy contract gets around the basic laws and rights of every other US citizen.
06-25-2014 | 11:44 AM
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Why should he sick it up? He asked what is your price. See he is smart he had a job that pays he see's his family etc. We all took this job and have had sit in return. So why should he sick it up? Because you did?
06-25-2014 | 12:35 PM
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I apologize for the terrible auto correct on this post!
06-26-2014 | 09:21 AM
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Like many others I do not think there is a pilot shortage, there is only a shortage of pilots who won't fly for what is offered.
45$ an hour to start is my number that I would consider risking everything you read in these forums and the horrible QoL one has to endure to go fly.
Until then I just fly for a hobby.
Just curious what are others magic $ number to leave a decent job for a regional?
1800 hrs 110 multi. Comm Inst.
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45$ an hour to start is my number that I would consider risking everything you read in these forums and the horrible QoL one has to endure to go fly.
Until then I just fly for a hobby.
Just curious what are others magic $ number to leave a decent job for a regional?
1800 hrs 110 multi. Comm Inst.
private rotorcraft
ATP written, FEX written
25 isn't much for a college grad with 6 figures worth of education.
06-29-2014 | 07:50 PM
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Per hr amt to leave a non flying job to fly?
I've been in a non-flying job since early 2011 and make pretty close to that $25 /hr. No yearly increases other than COLA, 4 weeks PTO every year (after you've been at the company for more than 3 years), good 401K match, insurance runs me about $370 per check, no travel, home every night, get to coach kid's sports, work out in the same gym every night and no airport food.
To put up with commuting, gone on the holidays, and all the other BS that goes along with it (not to mention that I'm not as young as I think I am anymore), and I'm not sure there's a dollar amount that would bring me back to a regional. I'd jump at a legacy or LCC, but no way I'm headed back to a regional. I do miss flying, but it just isn't worth it.
To put up with commuting, gone on the holidays, and all the other BS that goes along with it (not to mention that I'm not as young as I think I am anymore), and I'm not sure there's a dollar amount that would bring me back to a regional. I'd jump at a legacy or LCC, but no way I'm headed back to a regional. I do miss flying, but it just isn't worth it.
06-30-2014 | 06:39 PM
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Hmmmm, I say it'd take a lot.
I'd love to see the unions fight to get you compensated for ALL the time you're working...that's a start in the right direction.
Sadly, I don't think I'd be able to make the jump anymore...as the $$ + family time can't be beat. I've been out since '09, make $45/hour with 6 weeks off a year and a great company matched 401k that's been rocking...it's not all peaches and sunshine, I miss flying and only scratch the itch in a skyhawk instructing on the weekends...still get nostalgic when I hear Waterski on the radio - but not nostalgic enough to go back...even for $45/hour first year pay at a regional, it'd be a tossup.
I'd love to see the unions fight to get you compensated for ALL the time you're working...that's a start in the right direction.
Sadly, I don't think I'd be able to make the jump anymore...as the $$ + family time can't be beat. I've been out since '09, make $45/hour with 6 weeks off a year and a great company matched 401k that's been rocking...it's not all peaches and sunshine, I miss flying and only scratch the itch in a skyhawk instructing on the weekends...still get nostalgic when I hear Waterski on the radio - but not nostalgic enough to go back...even for $45/hour first year pay at a regional, it'd be a tossup.
07-01-2014 | 04:20 PM
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Or wait a little longer, see nothing change then have to fork out 15k to 20 to retake your atp written and probably some more to actually have your atp to even be considered for a regional.
07-01-2014 | 04:23 PM
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I've been in a non-flying job since early 2011 and make pretty close to that $25 /hr. No yearly increases other than COLA, 4 weeks PTO every year (after you've been at the company for more than 3 years), good 401K match, insurance runs me about $370 per check, no travel, home every night, get to coach kid's sports, work out in the same gym every night and no airport food.
To put up with commuting, gone on the holidays, and all the other BS that goes along with it (not to mention that I'm not as young as I think I am anymore), and I'm not sure there's a dollar amount that would bring me back to a regional. I'd jump at a legacy or LCC, but no way I'm headed back to a regional. I do miss flying, but it just isn't worth it.
To put up with commuting, gone on the holidays, and all the other BS that goes along with it (not to mention that I'm not as young as I think I am anymore), and I'm not sure there's a dollar amount that would bring me back to a regional. I'd jump at a legacy or LCC, but no way I'm headed back to a regional. I do miss flying, but it just isn't worth it.
07-02-2014 | 08:20 AM
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If he makes 25 and hour at a non flying job he probably makes $50K a year - vs - 25K max at a flying job.
It would be at least a one if not two year run to make captains pay which would top that.
So there is some money to re-coup, 401k contributions lost, and Qol issues, threat of layoff, start overs if he changes companies...
Now pop that rate up to 45 and hour and I bet there won't be a pilot shortage.
It would be at least a one if not two year run to make captains pay which would top that.
So there is some money to re-coup, 401k contributions lost, and Qol issues, threat of layoff, start overs if he changes companies...
Now pop that rate up to 45 and hour and I bet there won't be a pilot shortage.
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