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Old 01-02-2007 | 02:27 PM
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I am just curious, what do you mean when you say "fits your lifestyle"?
For a second there I thought this was going to turn interesting...

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Old 01-02-2007 | 02:55 PM
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Originally Posted by JetJock16

DO NOT; DON’T EVER FLY FOR Mess-A (Mesa) & BlowJets (GoJet). EXPECILLY BlowJets. If you fly for BlowJets you WILL be viewed as a SCAB, even if you weren’t part of the original pilot group. Pilots will take it as though you don’t care about your brothers (TSA Pilots) and that you support BlowJets, NOT GOOD!!!!!!!!!!
ScabJet pilots are NOT our brothers.
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Old 01-02-2007 | 03:16 PM
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Originally Posted by POPA
ScabJet pilots are NOT our brothers.
You misread, I said that TSA pilots are our brothers. I also said that any pilots who get hired after the fact, even though they were not the orignal scabs that BlowJets (ScabJets, GoJets) started with will be view as being the same.

"Pilots will take it as though you don’t care about your brothers (TSA Pilots) and that you support BlowJets, NOT GOOD!!!!!!!!!!"
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Old 01-02-2007 | 08:32 PM
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Originally Posted by bintynogin
1. Horizon - Best Pay, QOL, Contract, good relationship with pilots and mangement
WTF? If our relationship with management is good, I would hate to see what it's like elsewhere. You are dead wrong on that one. Sorry.
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Old 01-02-2007 | 10:58 PM
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WTF? If our relationship with management is good, I would hate to see what it's like elsewhere. You are dead wrong on that one. Sorry.
So far so good for me.. Cant really complain much yet. Then again when i think about it i take that part of the statment back. We are never really in the loop.

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Old 01-03-2007 | 07:57 AM
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I can't speak about the others, but I think they are OK. I just talked to a Chautauqua dude recently who will be upgrading around 24 months (probably a slight exageration on his part) and he seemed reasonably happy.
It's hovering around the 24-30 month region. We just had one guy make it in 23 months.
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Old 01-03-2007 | 09:27 AM
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On my last 4 day trip I flew with a former Horizon Dash 8 FO (spent 3 years with Horizon), she is now a CA at SKW. She told me something that I would like confirmation on, so this question is for Horizon pilots ONLY.

She said that if you're a 4th year Dash FO and want to become a CRJ FO, once you transition you will go back to first pay. Also, that you get paid based upon your seniority and not your a/c (at first it's your a/c then over time you get your seniority). So you can be a 6th year Dash FO making 6th year CRJ pay unless you transition then you go back to first year. Is this true? How about for upgrade?
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Old 01-03-2007 | 09:41 AM
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Originally Posted by JetJock16
On my last 4 day trip I flew with a former Horizon Dash 8 FO (spent 3 years with Horizon), she is now a CA at SKW. She told me something that I would like confirmation on, so this question is for Horizon pilots ONLY.

She said that if you're a 4th year Dash FO and want to become a CRJ FO, once you transition you will go back to first pay. Also, that you get paid based upon your seniority and not your a/c (at first it's your a/c then over time you get your seniority). So you can be a 6th year Dash FO making 6th year CRJ pay unless you transition then you go back to first year. Is this true? How about for upgrade?
At Horizon, FOs get paid based on the aircraft their seniority could hold. So a 6th year Dash FO makes 6th year CRJ FO pay. If you want to bid to another aircraft as an FO, you will go to the lowest payscale for two years, then back to the regualr pay system. The nice thing about this type of system from one perspective is you don't have to retrain on a new airplane, or maybe more importantly, not have to switch bases and commute, to get higher pay as an FO. However, for those in the Dash that have SJS, it sucks, but they should have known coming to Horizon that you would most likely fly props the whole time.

For Captains, you are paid based on what you fly.
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Old 01-03-2007 | 09:45 AM
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Originally Posted by bintynogin
So far so good for me.. Cant really complain much yet. Then again when i think about it i take that part of the statment back. We are never really in the loop.
It has nothing to do with being in the loop. It has everything to do with the way management blatantly ingnores the contract when it is not convenient for them, how they show no "heart" when it comes to anything that costs the company even one penny extra, even if it will mean a significant plus to the employee. They have taken morale at this company over the last 10 years and shoved it into the gutter, slowly but surely. The only thing that makes life at Horizon enjoyable is the other people that you work with day in and day out on the line.
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Old 01-03-2007 | 10:06 AM
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Originally Posted by QCappy
At Horizon, FOs get paid based on the aircraft their seniority could hold. So a 6th year Dash FO makes 6th year CRJ FO pay. If you want to bid to another aircraft as an FO, you will go to the lowest payscale for two years, then back to the regualr pay system. The nice thing about this type of system from one perspective is you don't have to retrain on a new airplane, or maybe more importantly, not have to switch bases and commute, to get higher pay as an FO. However, for those in the Dash that have SJS, it sucks, but they should have known coming to Horizon that you would most likely fly props the whole time.

For Captains, you are paid based on what you fly.
Thank you for the clarification.
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