View Poll Results: Should Regional Airlines Exist?
Yes, and I am a Regional Airline Pilot
14
8.38%
Yes, and I am a Major Airline Pilot
7
4.19%
Yes, and I am a LCC Airline Pilot
1
0.60%
Yes, and I am a non airline Career Pilot
4
2.40%
Yes, and I am a Pilot in Training or not a pilot
2
1.20%
No, and I am a Regional Airline Pilot
75
44.91%
No, and I am a Major Airline Pilot
39
23.35%
No, and I am a LCC Airline Pilot
8
4.79%
No, and I am a non airline Career Pilot
12
7.19%
No, and I am a Pilot in Training or not a pilot
5
2.99%
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Should Regional Airlines Exist?
08-01-2014 | 08:24 AM
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From: Downwind, headed straight for the rocks, shanghaied aboard the ship of fools.
08-01-2014 | 08:52 AM
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If the economics dictate that small-plane pilots get paid peanuts, at least give them a mainline seniority number for their trouble.
The reason the mainline pilot groups never wanted to absorb the small plane flying is because new-hires fresh out of the military would then have to fly small planes for low pay to start with. The current system allows most military pilots to get into the money immediately, while maintaining a b-scale caste system made up largely of civilian pilots. Doing anything else would be a radical cultural shift.
The reason the mainline pilot groups never wanted to absorb the small plane flying is because new-hires fresh out of the military would then have to fly small planes for low pay to start with. The current system allows most military pilots to get into the money immediately, while maintaining a b-scale caste system made up largely of civilian pilots. Doing anything else would be a radical cultural shift.
08-01-2014 | 09:00 AM
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If the economics dictate that small-plane pilots get paid peanuts, at least give them a mainline seniority number for their trouble.
The reason the mainline pilot groups never wanted to absorb the small plane flying is because new-hires fresh out of the military would then have to fly small planes for low pay to start with. The current system allows most military pilots to get into the money immediately, while maintaining a b-scale caste system made up largely of civilian pilots. Doing anything else would be a radical cultural shift.
The reason the mainline pilot groups never wanted to absorb the small plane flying is because new-hires fresh out of the military would then have to fly small planes for low pay to start with. The current system allows most military pilots to get into the money immediately, while maintaining a b-scale caste system made up largely of civilian pilots. Doing anything else would be a radical cultural shift.
Interestingly enough though, when the RJ came online, the B-scale at the majors already existed. Making the RJ (at that time) a C-scale wage.
08-01-2014 | 09:24 AM
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This poll is stupid. The dual purpose of regionals is 1. Screwing over labor and 2. Outsourcing MX, safety, and liability in the event of a crash. Period.
It has zero to do with paying your dues. If 50/70 seaters were flown by mainline you'd start at 40-50/hr with a crappy RSV schedule and work your way to 300+/hr in the left seat with 20+days off/month. All at the same airline.
Instead it's 5-10 years of servitude only to re-interview and be treated like a FNG with all your seniority, vacation, and benefits reset.
Complete and utter BS. I wish the media had the cajones to say that when they talk about regional airlines and the body count they've stacked up.
It has zero to do with paying your dues. If 50/70 seaters were flown by mainline you'd start at 40-50/hr with a crappy RSV schedule and work your way to 300+/hr in the left seat with 20+days off/month. All at the same airline.
Instead it's 5-10 years of servitude only to re-interview and be treated like a FNG with all your seniority, vacation, and benefits reset.
Complete and utter BS. I wish the media had the cajones to say that when they talk about regional airlines and the body count they've stacked up.
08-01-2014 | 09:30 AM
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Not saying I don't believe you but can you back that statement up in some way?
08-01-2014 | 09:34 AM
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Incorrect. Your point of view may be skewered if you are a regional airline pilot. Major airline pilots will be invited to this poll at some point, we'll see what they have to say. Major airline pilot pay is high because they they have traded scope for pay. And just like at the regionals, guys at the top of the list make the most.
Without Regional Airlines B scale, I hypothesize that major airline pay would be lower. The scales would be flatter.
Without Regional Airlines B scale, I hypothesize that major airline pay would be lower. The scales would be flatter.
08-01-2014 | 09:34 AM
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This was also true when USAir operated the M298 (Nord 262). That program was moved to the regionals, and the mainline pilots seemed to be happy to have it gone.
Make no mistake about it, the regionals exist like they do because the major airline pilots did not want little airplanes in their fleets. Of course no one says that, but the track record from the 1980s speaks for itself.
08-01-2014 | 09:34 AM
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If the economics dictate that small-plane pilots get paid peanuts, at least give them a mainline seniority number for their trouble.
The reason the mainline pilot groups never wanted to absorb the small plane flying is because new-hires fresh out of the military would then have to fly small planes for low pay to start with. The current system allows most military pilots to get into the money immediately, while maintaining a b-scale caste system made up largely of civilian pilots. Doing anything else would be a radical cultural shift.
The reason the mainline pilot groups never wanted to absorb the small plane flying is because new-hires fresh out of the military would then have to fly small planes for low pay to start with. The current system allows most military pilots to get into the money immediately, while maintaining a b-scale caste system made up largely of civilian pilots. Doing anything else would be a radical cultural shift.
08-01-2014 | 10:04 AM
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