Answer the question Jefferson?

OK, so this is where I say either less than one or more than 8 and you say "so you're putting up a plan that doesn't effect you" and I defend it... Lets skip a step.

If I'm under 1, moot, I'm still bidding at the bottom earning nothing. If I'm 8-15ish then I'm back in the right seat with the displacement... a loss of roughly the same number of $/year as just quitting... and if I'm over 15 then Christmas off is gone and I'm back working weekends... Any but the top 5% are going to be affected by the displacement bid to follow.

Besides, where I fit in exactly is moot.. What I'm offering is a real, viable response to the situation, in contrast to this temper tantrum.... Regional Pilot Sickout ? Sept 1st to 5th 2014 | ?Those who stand for nothing fall for anything? ? Alexander Hamilton

Sooooo, you are weak to lead by example i get it!

You are assuming you know where I fall in the matrix... and what path I would take regardless.

Besides, when you voted Obama into office (either time) did you expect him to pick up a rifle and head off into dirka dirkastan?

I didn't vote for Obama, but nice try. So i don't know you so why don't you yell us your position; Who do you work for and what seat?

I got a real solution for war. Let the country/religious leaders step into the octagon and duke it out. Everyone else in the military or militia or militant needs to quit right now! I think my solution serves far greater purpose and actually saves lives.

Love this idea... but lets call it the Octagon...

So you are comparing your leadership skills with Obama? I think you should shoot a little higher next time.

So please tell us where you fall in the matrix?

Which is it, is a regional a place to make a career or is it an up and out only place? The answer to this question determines what happens to you as an FO. My guess is there is no Captains complaining right now, only FO's.

If you are an FO, you want to upgrade to Captain as soon as possible, but that's out of your control and in some cases you are sitting in that right seat for 8 years making $30,000 a year.

If you are a regional Captain, you no longer really care about FO's. Now you want the choice of sitting Captain at the regional forever or moving on to mainline when its your turn. You have options that FO's don't have.

Even if your regional airline had the best intentions towards its pilots, they don't get to set the ticket prices, they are constrained by the pot of money given to them. And your airline management doesn't even decide how its divided up, the pilots do. And the pilots have spoken. They've said FO's are going to starve and Captains are going to do better at their expense.

So who are you really ****ed at?

You talked about affecting change. You want to make some waves? Get a group of FO's running your union council. Vote to completely flatten the payscales where FO's and Captains make the same money where only years of service pays higher. How would that be? Would you vote for that?

Be honest, who would vote for that?

The ONLY other way is to get a bigger pot of money from the parent airline, but be careful because if you ask for too much, other airlines who shall remain nameless will fly right in under the radar and underbid you because they can afford to with newly found concession money. Employees at these types of airlines suffer from SJS.

Do yourself a favor and make sure pilots at your airline hold the line so everything Envoy, Republic, Silver and more have done isn't for nothing.

Flattening the pay scales is probably the most meaningful thing a regional could do in the interest of longevity and self preservation. New FO's will flock there to make $35k or more a year starting, and nobody will stick around as a Captain keeping the "lifer cost" down.

No current regional would vote this in, but a prudent executive might try this if there's another start-up.