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davispm1 01-16-2007 09:39 AM

I used to not think it was a big deal that someone came from a school like with little time but now I think they need to have WAY more hours and experience. I hope I am not the only one that thinks this on the forums, I don't think I am.

Sioux39 01-16-2007 09:54 AM


Originally Posted by davispm1 (Post 103516)
I used to not think it was a big deal that someone came from a school like with little time but now I think they need to have WAY more hours and experience. I hope I am not the only one that thinks this on the forums, I don't think I am.

I agree with you, however, I believe that he is a rare example. From what I understand he had a connection or two at the company. It seems that at least from UND, most airlines place their mins around 500TT and 50 multi for us. While I think that is fair, I'm sure some people will still have a problem with that.

XJPILOT1 01-16-2007 10:06 AM


Originally Posted by Sioux39 (Post 103489)
I think that most pilots who get hired with 250TT are flight school graduates. I know a couple months ago Pinnacle hired a UND grad with about 278TT.


...and the Captain said, "sit there and don't touch anything"!!

Pinnacle is grabbing at straws here!! The Chief quit because management wanted
1800 hrs for Captain upgrade!! Please!!! You need experience in weather flying and aircraft control. 278TT is NOT going to give that to you.

Time means experience. If you're not happy instructing you're not going to be happy
at the regionals either. Read some of these posts and you'll see.

hatetobreakit2u 01-16-2007 11:24 AM


Originally Posted by XJPILOT1 (Post 103525)
.. If you're not happy instructing you're not going to be happy
at the regionals either..

i would be happier cleaning toilets than instructing ever again. i did not even renew my CFI because if the time comes that I ever need to instruct again i will quit altogether

davispm1 01-16-2007 12:09 PM

Not trying bust your ball$ but you paid good money for your CFI and it took some effort to get there. I know that instructing can get old but really that is the basis of our learning, that is when we really learned how to fly, plus its a cinch to keep the CFI current. Plus I beleiveve in helping the next guy under me who is coming up as long that there is an appreciation for it. I guess that I am old school!

XJPILOT1 01-16-2007 02:21 PM


Originally Posted by davispm1 (Post 103592)
Not trying bust your ball$ but you paid good money for your CFI and it took some effort to get there. I know that instructing can get old but really that is the basis of our learning, that is when we really learned how to fly, plus its a cinch to keep the CFI current. Plus I beleiveve in helping the next guy under me who is coming up as long that there is an appreciation for it. I guess that I am old school!


Absolutely!!! These threads are loaded with pilots looking for help into the industry. I got in because of someone else. Being a Pilot is bigger then driving a jet for a living. Helping each other get up the ladder is a big part of it.

Oh ya, making $25 an hour sitting in the right seat, going for plane rides and instructing a future Pilot DOES beat out cleaning toilets!!:)

supersix-4 01-16-2007 02:43 PM

I do clean toilets (Lavs) and I do agree. flying a kite is better then stinky lavs anyday...:cool:

XJPILOT1 01-16-2007 03:17 PM


Originally Posted by supersix-4 (Post 103660)
I do clean toilets (Lavs) and I do agree. flying a kite is better then stinky lavs anyday...:cool:


Amen Brother!!! Hey, I'll go on record here and thank you and the blue juice crew. We
can't live without you!!

P.S I wasn't born a pilot, I had many other jobs too!!

captchris 01-16-2007 03:55 PM


Originally Posted by davispm1 (Post 103477)
Where o' where are you getting your information that people will hire you at 250TT that is a joke and does not happen. I have well over 1600 and am having a hard time getting interviews, low multi is my problem. Got to have minimum 100 multi just to be maybe considered and that is not even competative!

Talked to a Pinnacle pilot in the airport the other day. He was brand new to the line---hired with 295 total time. It may be a crappy regional... but the above statement is true!

bassslayer 01-16-2007 04:48 PM

I think a lot of these low timers breeze through training because most of them are typed in the CRJ already, or at least have taken an extensive course for the CRJ, and come to class already knowing how to handle all the automation. Instead of getting their CFI's they bought a CRJ type rating. They don't actually have enough experience under their belts to have gotten used to flying a real airplane in the real world. They can however fly the heck out of a CRJ sim. It's safe bet for companies to hire these guys because they are all but guranteed to get through training. The lack of experience probably doesn't show until after they are out on the line flying into busy airports and through rough weather. By that time, it's the captains problem. I'm not judging anyone, to each his own, just my thoughts.


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