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BelowMins 12-29-2011 04:31 PM


Originally Posted by RonWeasley (Post 1109322)
Not piston twin time alone, no. All airlines want glass and jet time since the learning curve is steep, and there has been a tremendous washout rate recently. Notwithstanding, 9K pilots have left for B6, VX, and others, all had former jet time. I can tell you this, there is going to be a lot of movement at 9K in the next month or so.

What makes you say that?

9kBud 12-29-2011 04:40 PM


Originally Posted by Luv2Rotate (Post 1109325)
Good point. What about glass and turboprop time ie Q400 time, ;)

If you want turboprop and EFIS time, you can get that at Cape Air too, unless you want full on glass.

RonWeasley 12-30-2011 12:19 PM


Originally Posted by BelowMins (Post 1109332)
What makes you say that?

There are many with upcoming class dates elsewhere, I am told.

BelowMins 12-31-2011 06:35 AM


Originally Posted by RonWeasley (Post 1109676)
There are many with upcoming class dates elsewhere, I am told.

That's been the case for about a year now. The bottom half of the seniority list has pretty high turnover rate.

MusDg 02-04-2013 03:45 PM

Hmm. Seems we got slightly off topic here. A few things to say. I received hundreds of UND, Purdue, and the like grads when I instructed in the Air Force. Not saying all but the UND pilots were the worst. I would always prefer a zero timer over the attitude you had to deal with from a UND grad. Second I don't see where glass or turbine are that hard. I self taught myself a lot of MFD/PFF systems out there by skimming through the manual for about an hour. Have guys who go out to these big $3000+ courses and somehow spend months trying to teach them all over again. Same with a turbine. I'll take managing that over a turbo piston any day. Did anyone actually talk about Cape on here?

northdakota 02-04-2013 05:22 PM


Originally Posted by MusDg (Post 1345938)
Hmm. Seems we got slightly off topic here. A few things to say. I received hundreds of UND, Purdue, and the like grads when I instructed in the Air Force. Not saying all but the UND pilots were the worst. I would always prefer a zero timer over the attitude you had to deal with from a UND grad. Second I don't see where glass or turbine are that hard. I self taught myself a lot of MFD/PFF systems out there by skimming through the manual for about an hour. Have guys who go out to these big $3000+ courses and somehow spend months trying to teach them all over again. Same with a turbine. I'll take managing that over a turbo piston any day. Did anyone actually talk about Cape on here?

You must have been an awesome instructor with those generalizations you make. It's funny because most of the people with no personality on long trips wear USAF rings and thier optional hats!

USMCFLYR 02-04-2013 05:36 PM


Originally Posted by northdakota (Post 1345972)
You must have been an awesome instructor with those generalizations you make. It's funny because most of the people with no personality on long trips wear USAF rings and thier optional hats!

So you bag on someone elses' generalizations by making your own?

JamesNoBrakes 02-04-2013 05:43 PM


Originally Posted by USMCFLYR (Post 1345982)
So you bag on someone elses' generalizations by making your own?

Haha, it made me laugh though.

USMCFLYR 02-04-2013 05:50 PM


Originally Posted by JamesNoBrakes (Post 1345991)
Haha, it made me laugh though.

The second part is funny - - without the first part distracting from it. :)

...when I instructed in the Air Force.
MusDg - just to clear any misunderstandings up though - I thought you were a contract instructor during the initial screening portion prior to flight school or during the Academy time? Not IN the Air Force.

MusDg 02-05-2013 02:41 PM

Was in the Army for 10 years (Aviation & Armor), Air Force for 5 years (Airfield & Airspace Management), DOD Civilian (MTR Survey Pilot) for 5 Years, and USAF Contract Instructor at IFS for 5 Years. I'm pretty modest when it comes to stats but had a washout rate of 272 out of 275 over my 5 years at USAF IFS for the students I instructed. Those 3 were airsick or realized military aviation wasn't for them.


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