Best training department
 

Ok, regardless which regional is the better one I just would like to
know which training department is the better one and known for
quality..

I witnessed people getting failed on purpose to keep them..

Prepare yourself for 500 subjective views and opinions; followed by a closing of this thread by Vagabond

Just my guess.

Your question doesn't have any chance to be validated with facts, just assumptions

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I hear some are very, very, forgiving. Others, not so much.

I turned down an offer from Piedmont last year specifically because of their training department.

I sought out a job at Mesa specifically because of their training department.

I think I made the right call.

SKW is well known to have a very low fail rate...you're much more likely to fail the interview than the training...and fortunately interviews are not PRIA reportable events (yet).

There is the question you should be asking. Which training dept has the lowest failure rate.

Probably Mesa they can turn anybody into an airline pilot.

Mesa has an excellent training department, they are thorough and will spend the time to help a candidate out as long as the person is trying to succeed. They can't "turn anybody into an airline pilot", that's BS, but they can help those with the aptitude, attitude and skills succeed in their bid to become FOs in their jets, responsible for safely operating aircraft with 70+ lives aboard.

Their failure rate is quite low considering those they're hiring and I know 2 guys there on the line who wouldn't have a snow balls chance in hell at passing anywhere else.

Hm.. Who cares.

Good luck and don't suck.

Since the majority of posters only have experience with one training department, they cannot make an educated comparison.

As others have said, ask about failure rates.

Some other questions I would suggest:
Is training in house or farmed out?
Do you feel check airmen are generally equally hard/easy?
During initial or transition, will the company give extra sim time to a "good" applicant that is having an issue or two?
Are the check airmen generally nice/helpful/angry/hostile?
Do you feel the training evolutions are well organized?

You did good because that's why I am leaving PDT while my record is still clean.

Anyone thoughts about TSA?

I've only been through one 121 training, but I have a lot of good things to say about SKW's training department and their people.

ok great thanks for the feedback everyone. If anyone can tel me more about TSA (cause that's the only interview I will have next month so far) that
will be highly appreciated.

By far the best?

Comair. Period.


ACA: Was bad. Got better after needed changes made.


RAH: so so. Seen better. Seen worse.


Now what was the point of this thread?

I think he's trying to mitigate any potential chance for failure. There are clearly issues with some training departments (EGL, and PDT are two I can think of) and you would do well to steer clear of the known problem children, but really OP -- if you want to do well in your training, apply yourself. Study hard, and I doubt you'll fail unless you can't fly or memorize profiles or multi-task or you tend to choke on oral or sim evals.

Almost every training department has their "special" person who likes to make it hard on newhires -- that's just the way it is and you had better be prepared if you get that person. Also, no one's immune to having a bad day. You just prepare the best you know how and get on with it.

I already flew for 6 years for an airline and hold 2 type ratings from which one of them was the Dash 8. So I agree with most of what you
wrote. But what I've seen at PDT I haven't seen before. And it's not only for what I have seen for myself, but also what happened to other classmates.

Anyway if anyone can pm me about TSA that will appreciated.

Yeah PDT is the one that I consistently hear bad things about so like everyone else, I encourage people to make another choice for an airline.

Really? "Period"? The accident history would suggest otherwise.

F50 Driver... check PM.

TSA is pretty chill. Show up with a good attitude they will work with you.

XJET has a phenomenal training department (I'm on the ERJ side although I hear the CRJ is great as well). Unfortunately we aren't hiring or upgrading so most of the instructors are back on the line.

I second that...I'm on the L-ASA side and our Training Department is FANTASTIC! Everyone agrees that of all the nonsense we put up with at this company, the Training Department is a shining star. I've heard the same compliments of the L-XJT side as well, they are outstanding as I understand it.

What about Horizon? What is the "culture" of the training department?

Do you fault the guys in the training department for them taking off on the wrong runway? Does Virgin do runway recognition training in the sim or something?

talked to a recruiter today at dfw. phone interviews are real. no technical or stupid questions like why mesa. just get to know you. recruiter claimed a 98 % success rate. cant wait to get my app in. dont bother responding to this post cruz. im sure you know by now you are on ignore and i wouldnt read your response anyway. hopefully smart enough to know i wont listen. there were 2 3rd year envoy pilots there that were still on reserve and were quote "fed up" with the company. says they are shrinking to 118 airframes and 1500 pilots. . as for everybody else flame away

Well you can say training was fixed industry wide with almost every airline now having a runway heading/check procedure for the PF/PM as they take the runway. This change came out of the LEX accident. And you missed the point, which was that it is silly to say best training - period for any regional's training. Unless one has been through every regional, it's just not a statement one can accurately make.

I've been thru 3 121 training departments from best to worst, 1. SkyWest 2. JetBlue 3. Pinnacle (not training department but evaluation department)

Top notch department of my 3 airlines it's slightly above SkyWest but the difference is small it's hard to say one is better than the other.

They are all beyond forgiving. How else would a 300-1000 hour wonder go from C152 to EMB-175. Have fun baby sitting Captains :)

You will read it because if you truly had me on ignore you wouldn't be able to see what I wrote. It wouldn't surprise me that they'd talk to you they'll take anyone, what happened to your love affair for RAH they turn you down already? You've been spouting off a lot about being a lifer captain there.

I hope you consider many not all US airlines have had at least one Fatal accident of some sort. The vast majority of those accidents were the result of pilot error.

Sent you a PM about TSA.

Why it's....... SureJet! :D

I you have a minute, would you mind pm'ing me the same message about TSA training?

I have to agree that Horizon by far has the best training of the three companies I have been at. I learned things about the Q400 there that I had never been exposed to at 9L or YX. They also have very reasonable expectations when it comes to what should be committed to memory vs looked up.

L-ASA had a fantastic department when I flew there. The instructors were approachable, knowledgeable and knew how to teach. I felt very confident leaving to fly the line. Definitely a lot of good memories training down in the ATL :D

Never having worked for them but my colleagues have, I would have to say great lakes turns out a phenomenal pilot. Old school eagle after lakes and skywest would be my top three picks. As someone mentioned earlier this is all subjective but based on training success rate at my current employer this is what I've observed.