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whoareyou311 10-04-2014 08:28 AM

Who will be the lucky winner for delta flying
 
From the endeavor air monthly news letter from our fearless leader:

With the recent announcement of our plan to continue removing 50‐seat
aircraft into 2015, Endeavor will begin transferring CRJ‐200 aircraft to other Delta
Connection carriers that possess the capability to fly them. We expect to transfer
two aircraft within the next 30 days and will transfer other shells in the future if
needed. Exactly what carrier will be in a position to fly 50 seat aircraft and how
many they will fly is yet to be fully determined. We will work with Delta as they
find carriers that can provide the service that Delta needs on the 50‐seat product as
we draw down this operation.

bernouli 10-04-2014 08:39 AM

GoJet.

Abcde

Mesabah 10-04-2014 08:39 AM

Good luck finding a home for those when the 76 seat, and possibly 81 seat jets, need every available regional pilot.

Crawl 10-04-2014 08:41 AM

Wait, wut? What about EtD?!

Moonwolf 10-04-2014 08:41 AM


Originally Posted by whoareyou311 (Post 1739970)
From the endeavor air monthly news letter from our fearless leader:

With the recent announcement of our plan to continue removing 50‐seat
aircraft into 2015, Endeavor will begin transferring CRJ‐200 aircraft to other Delta
Connection carriers that possess the capability to fly them. We expect to transfer
two aircraft within the next 30 days and will transfer other shells in the future if
needed. Exactly what carrier will be in a position to fly 50 seat aircraft and how
many they will fly is yet to be fully determined. We will work with Delta as they
find carriers that can provide the service that Delta needs on the 50‐seat product as
we draw down this operation.

Air Wisconsin, the worlds premier operator of the majestic crj200.


Siiike!

Moonwolf 10-04-2014 08:44 AM

Oh ps, the title of this thread should be. "Who will spread their but cheeks the most for delta"



And in that case maybe gojet

Jet87 10-04-2014 08:47 AM

Who will be the lucky winner for delta flying
 
I know SkyWest is getting some, I'm not sure exactly how many though

snippercr 10-04-2014 08:48 AM

PSA is doing a great job at taking other carriers aircraft and they are still staffing their flying. Why not them?

Bozo 10-04-2014 08:53 AM


Originally Posted by whoareyou311 (Post 1739970)
From the endeavor air monthly news letter from our fearless leader:

With the recent announcement of our plan to continue removing 50‐seat
aircraft into 2015, Endeavor will begin transferring CRJ‐200 aircraft to other Delta
Connection carriers that possess the capability to fly them. We expect to transfer
two aircraft within the next 30 days and will transfer other shells in the future if
needed. Exactly what carrier will be in a position to fly 50 seat aircraft and how
many they will fly is yet to be fully determined. We will work with Delta as they
find carriers that can provide the service that Delta needs on the 50‐seat product as
we draw down this operation.

Key points:

Endeavor will begin transferring CRJ‐200 aircraft to other Delta
Connection carriers
that possess the capability to fly them.

We expect to transfer two aircraft within the next 30 days...

So the real question which airlines currently operate CRJ 200 for Mother DAL?

ClickClickBoom 10-04-2014 09:09 AM


Originally Posted by Jet87 (Post 1739991)
I know SkyWest is getting some, I'm not sure exactly how many though

Great more hoopties.

Nantonaku 10-04-2014 09:31 AM

I'm sure the terms will be great, here fly these planes with 100 pilots you don't have until we decide in 3 months we really don't want to fly these planes anymore.

block30 10-04-2014 09:43 AM

Ok, so the way to show that Endeavor is the preferred DCI carrier is to take their airplanes and give them to other DCI carriers? Oh, and not hire people who have applied under the EtD? Makes sense.

DL31082 10-04-2014 09:49 AM

Who will be the lucky winner for delta flying
 
These planes are the youngest in the fleet. 38 have also been refurbished recently. They could very easily be replacing some of the older aircraft at ExpressJet or SkyWest. The only DCI carriers that operate the -200 are ExpressJet, Skywest, and Endeavor.

Farmlover 10-04-2014 09:51 AM


Originally Posted by DL31082 (Post 1740037)
These planes are the youngest in the fleet. 38 have also been refurbished recently. They could very easily be replacing some of the older aircraft at ExpressJet or SkyWest. The only DCI carriers that operate the -200 are ExpressJet, Skywest, and Endeavor.

They sent the newest ones to the sand. We kept the oldest.

121again 10-04-2014 10:14 AM

Just to stir the pot a little more there have been rumors that Mesa has been working on something with Delta. I can't imagine they'd want to get back into the 50 seat game again, but I guess if the price was right...

minimwage4 10-04-2014 10:27 AM


Originally Posted by Moonwolf (Post 1739987)
Oh ps, the title of this thread should be. "Who will spread their but cheeks the most for delta"



And in that case maybe gojet

Ewwwwwwwww!

gojo 10-04-2014 10:32 AM


Originally Posted by Nantonaku (Post 1740027)
I'm sure the terms will be great, here fly these planes with 100 pilots you don't have until we decide in 3 months we really don't want to fly these planes anymore.

Exactly, Endeavor attrition has outpaced their schedule for parking the 200's. Once they Delta can bring their 717's on line and all the 900's are delivered, I believe those 200's will be sent to the desert as well

Mesabah 10-04-2014 10:38 AM

They could be place holders for our 900's eventually too.

gojo 10-04-2014 10:46 AM


Originally Posted by Mesabah (Post 1740076)
They could be place holders for our 900's eventually too.

Who knows, I trust Delta about as much as, well actually I don't trust Delta. And Cue 80 knots to say "that's just business "

Salukipilot4590 10-04-2014 10:54 AM

Silver Airways

ASAnotASAP 10-04-2014 11:13 AM

Big increase in DTW CR2 flying for ExpressJet in December. About 15 new city pairs.

amcnd 10-04-2014 11:21 AM

SKW is beefing up its MSP base also....

CarolinaAngler 10-04-2014 11:45 AM


Originally Posted by Salukipilot4590 (Post 1740085)
Silver Airways

Re-fleeting Silver actually makes sense, but not in 30 days.

Salukipilot4590 10-04-2014 12:10 PM


Originally Posted by CarolinaAngler (Post 1740114)
Re-fleeting Silver actually makes sense, but not in 30 days.

We'll have both the Saabs and CRJs, need to diversify our portfolio.

uboatdriver 10-04-2014 03:51 PM


Originally Posted by ASAnotASAP (Post 1740094)
Big increase in DTW CR2 flying for ExpressJet in December. About 15 new city pairs.


Do you have a source for this?

GlobeTreker 10-04-2014 04:01 PM


Originally Posted by uboatdriver (Post 1740243)
Do you have a source for this?

The cleaning lady from the peep show room at the adult bookstore.

DENpilot 10-04-2014 04:10 PM


Originally Posted by uboatdriver (Post 1740243)
Do you have a source for this?

He doesn't and he's pulling **** out of his arse. XJT management has said that they don't receive final schedules from DL until about 5 weeks prior.

deltajuliet 10-04-2014 04:16 PM


Originally Posted by 121again (Post 1740056)
Just to stir the pot a little more there have been rumors that Mesa has been working on something with Delta. I can't imagine they'd want to get back into the 50 seat game again, but I guess if the price was right...

Please no more 200's. We're still trying to get rid of the one we have. It was like the one stupid NDB in our area during training. All the instrument students celebrated the day it broke and they no longer had to do it on checkrides, but for some unimaginable reason it was fixed and there was a universally observed day of mourning. CRJ-200's are like that damn NDB. They won't be missed.

FaceBiter 10-04-2014 04:42 PM


Originally Posted by deltajuliet (Post 1740259)
Please no more 200's. We're still trying to get rid of the one we have. It was like the one stupid NDB in our area during training. All the instrument students celebrated the day it broke and they no longer had to do it on checkrides, but for some unimaginable reason it was fixed and there was a universally observed day of mourning. CRJ-200's are like that damn NDB. They won't be missed.

121 pic right? I thought you guys were all about quick upgradezzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.

DENpilot 10-04-2014 04:46 PM


Originally Posted by FaceBiter (Post 1740279)
121 pic right? I thought you guys were all about quick upgradezzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.

Did I just hear someone fart?

Geardownflaps30 10-04-2014 04:54 PM

I heard that Comair is going to get them.

Cruz5350 10-04-2014 05:41 PM


Originally Posted by deltajuliet (Post 1740259)
Please no more 200's. We're still trying to get rid of the one we have. It was like the one stupid NDB in our area during training. All the instrument students celebrated the day it broke and they no longer had to do it on checkrides, but for some unimaginable reason it was fixed and there was a universally observed day of mourning. CRJ-200's are like that damn NDB. They won't be missed.

You've been a 121 pilot for what 3 months and never flown a 200, kinda hard for you to be making that assumption. I'm not defending 200's but they're not that much worse than 7/9's or any piece of junk RJ for that matter.

DLAJ77 10-04-2014 06:02 PM


Originally Posted by deltajuliet (Post 1740259)
Please no more 200's. We're still trying to get rid of the one we have. It was like the one stupid NDB in our area during training. All the instrument students celebrated the day it broke and they no longer had to do it on checkrides, but for some unimaginable reason it was fixed and there was a universally observed day of mourning. CRJ-200's are like that damn NDB. They won't be missed.

Of course mesa pilots don't want more 200s. Aren't mesa rsv pilots paid based on 200 pay. Their crj7 pay is pathetic enough. You on your 4th trip of IOE yet?

deltajuliet 10-04-2014 06:51 PM

12th. I think I might get the hang of it after another 50 hours!


Originally Posted by Cruz5350 (Post 1740311)
You've been a 121 pilot for what 3 months and never flown a 200, kinda hard for you to be making that assumption. I'm not defending 200's but they're not that much worse than 7/9's or any piece of junk RJ for that matter.

I've done extensive ground school and sim training in the 200 a few years back, wasn't a big fan. But more than anything, it's older and prone to maintenance problems that make it less reliable. That's all in addition to the fact that it only exists on property so they can pay pilots less.

bernouli 10-04-2014 07:25 PM


Originally Posted by deltajuliet (Post 1740346)
12th. I think I might get the hang of it after another 50 hours!



I've done extensive ground school and sim training in the 200 a few years back, wasn't a big fan. But more than anything, it's older and prone to maintenance problems that make it less reliable. That's all in addition to the fact that it only exists on property so they can pay pilots less.

Is this kid serious.

Shaking. My. Head.

FaceBiter 10-04-2014 07:30 PM


Originally Posted by deltajuliet (Post 1740346)
12th. I think I might get the hang of it after another 50 hours!



I've done extensive ground school and sim training in the 200 a few years back, wasn't a big fan. But more than anything, it's older and prone to maintenance problems that make it less reliable. That's all in addition to the fact that it only exists on property so they can pay pilots less.


Riddle alert! Riddle alert!

beech1980 10-04-2014 07:50 PM

Skywest is expanding their flying in MSP... They are turning into the Big D of the regionals.

sevenforseven 10-04-2014 08:15 PM

Great Lakes! You heard it here first. Big announcement on Friday!

Past V1 10-04-2014 11:08 PM

Who will be the lucky winner for delta flying
 
Who ever it is, they won't be cheaper then 9E. So the real question is, why is DAL willing to spend a little extra now for foreseeable extra revenue at a later date? My best guess is to trim the fat at 9E and get someone to fly these worthless tin cans at a contract that can easily cancelled. With all 200's gone, DAL and 9E can streamline and expedite 900 training for a better position going into 2015-2016 flying. Not saying 9E is going to get more planes, just saying it will better to manage routes and scheduling with one type of aircraft. Although flexibility going into different markets will be reduced, it must be DAL plan of sending 9E into normally high capacity routes with less frequency i.e. New York. If they can fill the gap in high demand time slots for business travelers, they can complete with LCC's operating up and down the east coast simply because they have a low cost regional model.
I always see everyone talking about mainline whipsawing regionals around to lower cost, which they have accomplished at 9E...Rock Bottom. Investors don't care much about expense cutting as they do revenue growth. One way (of many) is to capture market share in a growing market with your own low cost model and see if it works. If it doesn't, BYE BYE 9E. Just my take...if your company gets the 200's, consider it a curse rather than blessing because you are not part of the long term business plan at DAL...just a pawn in the chess match.

Jefferson 10-05-2014 04:39 AM


Originally Posted by Past V1 (Post 1740439)
Who ever it is, they won't be cheaper then 9E. So the real question is, why is DAL willing to spend a little extra now for foreseeable extra revenue at a later date? My best guess is to trim the fat at 9E and get someone to fly these worthless tin cans at a contract that can easily cancelled. With all 200's gone, DAL and 9E can streamline and expedite 900 training for a better position going into 2015-2016 flying. Not saying 9E is going to get more planes, just saying it will better to manage routes and scheduling with one type of aircraft. Although flexibility going into different markets will be reduced, it must be DAL plan of sending 9E into normally high capacity routes with less frequency i.e. New York. If they can fill the gap in high demand time slots for business travelers, they can complete with LCC's operating up and down the east coast simply because they have a low cost regional model.
I always see everyone talking about mainline whipsawing regionals around to lower cost, which they have accomplished at 9E...Rock Bottom. Investors don't care much about expense cutting as they do revenue growth. One way (of many) is to capture market share in a growing market with your own low cost model and see if it works. If it doesn't, BYE BYE 9E. Just my take...if your company gets the 200's, consider it a curse rather than blessing because you are not part of the long term business plan at DAL...just a pawn in the chess match.


They are imploding for lack of pilots... no grand scheme here. Move along.


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