LogTen Annual fee $69.99/yr
 

LogTen is now charging a yearly fee of $69.99 to log flight time. Total garbage.......time to find new software that won't cost me $700 to log my flight time over the next 10 years. What other logbook programs out tee are people using that would be easy to transfer time for LogTen?

The other standard is probably Logbook Pro. Biggest drawback though is that its not compatible with Macs.

It is if you dual boot or emulate Windows. Pretty easy to do

I think the annual fee only apply to their newest version. If you keep the old one, then you are good (at least I hope so).

I use Parallels. A little pricey when you have to be Parallels, Windows Software, and LBP. Wish they would just make it compatible....

They have a lot of nerve to charge a costly annual subscription when their products are so perpetually flawed and unstable. I have had their synch function delete data, add multiple fields for the same type of time, for example, three PIC or SIC fields that cannot be gotten rid of except by deleting the program and reinstalling. I am boycotting this and any future software that they produce. Not to mention, this program isn't well suited to professional pilots. Pretty much all of us have done multiple types of flying to get where we are - Coradine configures the software to be optimized for someone in one particular "role"...GA, CFI, 135, 121, etc. Good lucky trying to go back and input a flying career into the program. It's a nightmare. I'm done with Coradine and looking for an alternative...

why not just bootcamp and save the parallels price? not like you log your time everyday do ya?

Yep. this is my jam. sorta cheap, mostly europe centric, but it logs into my company account and gets my flights for me automatically and for free.

I like it

Yeah, I've found that anything in the Apple/Mac ecosystem is overpriced in general.

Ill have to take a look into this. To be honest, I just got my first Mac a month or two ago, so Im still learning.

bootcamp is basically a way to install windows natively on your mac. your mac runs on (get ready for this) the exact same hardware that pcs run on.

[sidenote, this did not use to be the case until about little over 6 years ago]

anyway, that all being said, what happens is you dual boot. you reboot your computer and you pick, this time I will boot into windows, this time I will boot into mac.


the upside is that it's not emulated. it's run 100% natively. That means you can game to your hearts content or do whatever 3d rendering you can do on a mobile video card.

the downside is that you need to reboot to get there.

You can also emulate the boot camp partition while still in osx if you need to go in there to log a flight or whatever and don't feel like rebooting. or if you saved a document in a folder not shared between both OSes. stuff like that.

you can emulate with paralells like you do now, or with vmware fusion, or any other similar software. but running windows natively is da bomb if and when you have the need for it

Make an excel spreadsheet. Fully customizable to however you want it. Cost, free.

Eh, it's $69.99 for both the Mac and iOS versions, which if I remember correctly, were $69.99 each or something like that. Realistically, it's 6 of one or half a dozen of the other, depending on how long between updates this guy goes.

LBP users can do the parallels or bootcamp thing if they need to and save the coin.

I'd be interested in a yearly subscription if the current product didn't have a ton of flaws and wasn't frustrating to use at times.

MccPilotlog

I believe I paid $80. No other fees or reoccurring fees. Compatible with PC or Mac. User friendly and haven't had a single issue with it yet!

Maybe we can negotiate with Coradine to get us "Grandfathered" in :)


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So does anyone know if you can skip out on the monthly fee if you don't upgrade? Can you still get support if you don't upgrade?

They're not exactly getting new customers everyday, that's the whole point of this subscription fee.

MccPilotLog is my choice I think. I waited 2 months for LTP to release a new major version (because I knew I'd have to pay so I didn't want the 3 year old one).. And I'm glad I waited!

Plus, MCC works on the Android. Sweet deal!

and it works with almost every airline for importing schedules FOR FREE

syncs with your phone FOR FREE


I love mccpilotlog. I wish I remember which captain showed me it so I could thank him. makes LBP seem archaic.

Yep one more vote for MCCPilotlog here.

You're missing the annual fee. Before, it was a one-time purchase. Now, they want to bill you to use the software on an ongoing basis. Stupidest thing I've ever seen. I hope they go out of business.

They are heavy on marketing and light on performance in the first place.

LogTen Annual fee $69.99/yr
 

I haven't upgraded yet. Still works... Maybe just stay with the older version.

LogTen Annual fee $69.99/yr
 

MCC is great -- especially customer service. My only hang up is that my iPad will not break down times for me. I log my flights in the iPad then sync. It backs up onto the cloud and my PC. The PC is the only place I can get breakdowns of flight time. Other than that, it works well for me! And the price is right.

LogTen Annual fee $69.99/yr
 

A LTP user wrote this on Coradine's FB page...

THIS is from an email from Coradine in 2012:

"We listened, here's what you said.
We conducted a customer feedback survey in early January and we wanted to share the valuable results we received from thousands of your peers.

The majority of pilots felt the initial price was pretty close, but the upgrade price was too high (which was exacerbated by the fact that this was the first time a major new version of LogTen Pro launched for Mac, iPad and iPhone all at the same time).
-- 74% of respondents were in favor of paid upgrades, as opposed to a subscription or in-app purchase model.
-- 80% of you want a universal app so you can run LogTen Pro on both iPhone and iPad with one app.
-- 81% are running Mac OS X Lion
-- 79% have an iPhone 4 or 4S
-- 80% have an iPad (with the majority having an iPad 2).

Thank you for your honest feedback. We always want to consider the customer first when deciding the future direction the company takes.

User's Response:
Really? So what happened to 74% of respondents? What happened to you always wanting to consider the customer first when deciding the future direction the company takes?

You've lost your way and you're losing all of your customers.

You have NO idea how small the aviation community is. You should, but apparently you do not.

What a joke, I bought it last year when it went "on sale" $79 (?) in January. I didn't even get it fully working until last month.

Now the iCloud sync wont work on the new iCloud drive. Useless. Screw these guys.

I understand subscriptions...but 70/yr is just BS.

Ya see....what they SHOULD have done was make it 29.99/yr....BAM profit!

SMH

My dilemma also. I guess I'll find out if it shuts down on me. I refuse to pay those prices.


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Here's another gotcha learned the hard way with Coradine/LTP....when I upgraded my Mac OS software, LTP stopped working. I called and their solution was to buy a newer version of LTP. No thanks, see ya. With OS Yosemite coming out/just released who knows what will happen to LTP users?

Yup too expensive. I'm out. What are some decent programs where a transfer would not be too difficult?

For the love of God....hurry up APDL!

I saw the price as in the in app purchase as $34.99. I assumed that's per year and it says on the website sign up by October 30th to get the first year half off. So is the $34.99 the half off price or the full price and iTunes will charge u for half that?? $34.99/yr is still steep. Maybe $12.99-$19.99 per year is more reasonable.
Just from glancing it looks like the only improvements are IOS 7 look and feel (who cares) and FAR117 tracking. Does the 117 tracking actually figure out daily limits comparing daily FDP segments and start time or does it just track the 28day, 7day and yearly limits??

Has anyone upgrades to OS X Yosemite and tried the old version?? I'm assuming if the old version still works with Yosemite and I turn on iCloud drive I can still sync my phone and computer Logten versions via wifi? Really no need to upgrade.

It seems to be working fine with the Yosemite on my macbook. And yeah, the cloud sync is gone with icloud drive.

I am not against getting the $35 for the first year thing to try out the new software. However, I don't want to be on the hook $70 every year after that if I don't like it. I assume the wifi sync and version 6 will be kept up and operating.

$69.99/year on that piece of crapware? It's a glorified spreadsheet program. Get real. Can't wait to see this company retract this approach in the next few days.

Just skipped town on Logbook Pro and went with MccPilotlog! C-ya!

So logten pro on the ipad is the same as logten right? I paid 80 or so, one time fee. Will that change now?

The mobile application for iPad and iPhone is not the same as the LogTenPro for the Mac.

A lot of people don't have a Mac and just buy the mobile app for their Apple iOS device. I know the Mac Log10Pro was like $99 by itself and you had to buy the mobile apps separately. It was like $40 for 1 iOS device and more for multiple iOS devices.

You should be able to use it still. It will just go unsupported soon and it will become a glorified spreadsheet. I am concerned with the wifi sync and if that will remain since I assume it requires some sort of support. Without the sync, its useless to me. The whole draw of LBP10 is being able to input my times on the phone and have them sync with the Mac

This is WEAK. I'm insulted that I ever bought their software in the first place!

I can understand they are a business trying to make money so they come out with new software, yearly, with new features. I would be glad to pay for new features. But I may not want new features!

They've never support their previous software version! So you pay for a product only to discover there is a bug in it and they don't fix it. You have to buy new software!

Charge for new features with new software, but at least support your old software so they work. No warranty with logten pro.

The $34.99 is the sale price. That or $6.99 per month.