Originally Posted by TeamRamRod (Post 1761537)

Man my brain hurts....

I swear people are blindfolded throwing crap at a dart board and whatever number gets hit, that's going to be the net gain. A DEN captain that's tied into the union and is tied into the certification at the FSDO just told me the real facts on the phone. TSA is keeping all the EPs and MPs and replacing the thrust reverser equipped LRs with the new thrust reverser LRs with less pieces of speed tape on them. The LRs in United colors will primarily be used on USAirways routes between PIT, BDL, and RDU. The EPs in USAirways paint will be flying STL - IAH, IAH - JAX, and IAD - JAX under the United name, primarily for passenger comfort so they don't have to sit next to anyone because it'll be half full due to weight restrictions. So, since there are only 3 LRs that currently have TRs, that leaves 33 airplanes left over. TSA is no longer doing sim training at FSI, the remaining 33 airplanes will be used to train the CQFOs that aren't needed for such small net growth. Looks like everyone except me is wrong....Ha!


Now that the facts are out of the way..... let's point out some things that are absolutely absurd and make NO sense whatsoever.

TSA operates 7 EPs total. TWO (2) are United colors. 802 and 857. The rest are in USAirways or TSA colors. The ones in TSA colors (806,812,825) are used on occasion, if needed, and will be used for charters. So even if the two United Eps would be replaced, that leaves 34 net gain. TSA has 3 MPs. For fun, let's say they get rid of all those. Down to 31 net gain now. 20? 18? Nope. The ONLY way I can come up with 18 airplanes is dumping every United LR without thrust reversers (16) and the 2 United EPs. Seems pretty logical considering the non-TR equipped airplanes have operated just fine with the exception of Ottawa (time will tell on that operation this winter/spring). Let's not forget, a good amount of these non-TR equipped airplanes that are undoubtedly being parked were repainted within the last 4 months... probably so they look good in the desert.

Where do you guys think this stuff up?

Since I'm not much of a popcorn guy, I'm gonna go get some whiskey.

Originally Posted by kcflying (Post 1761553)

I posted my info from a couple union/training sources that wanted to clarify how many we were actually adding which would be helpful to tell any friends thinking about come to tsa. 36 new planes for TSA included replacing 18 whose contracts were expiring this year. I trust these sources, but who knows. Hopefully the company will continue with more details this week including which hubs the flying will go to

Originally Posted by RodJohnson (Post 1761552)

He got fired, then blamed the company, most importantly,the recruiting dept for it..

Originally Posted by MavAv8r (Post 1761548)

Judging from the intelligence level of his posts and the misconceptions of the company... Something that rhymes with being a woosh tag, and that's enough for me to keep him out of any 121 flight deck.

Originally Posted by ArcherDvr (Post 1761558)

Well since you brought it up, I never blamed the recruiting department. Getting fired was my own fault. The recruiting departments info at the interview was way off though, and I think some of it was intentional,

Originally Posted by MavAv8r (Post 1761561)

That info seems pretty bang on now, doesn't it?

Originally Posted by ArcherDvr (Post 1761565)

Well if by spot on you mean three times the predicted upgrade time than yeah.

Originally Posted by MavAv8r (Post 1761566)

Pretty sure upgrade is running 18 months as of the last class. With new aircraft it will be 12 soon. And no one was advertising a 6 month upgrade....ever. Check your facts, or basic math skills.

Originally Posted by ArcherDvr (Post 1761578)

I know what this company does, and so does the last TSA captain I flew with that was a 12 year FO and stayed because "that upgrade was always just around the corner."

Originally Posted by ArcherDvr (Post 1761578)

I know what this company does, and so does the last TSA captain I flew with that was a 12 year FO and stayed because "that upgrade was always just around the corner."

Originally Posted by soill (Post 1761658)

Bull$hit...if he was a 12 yr FO it's because he didn't want to upgrade.

Originally Posted by ArcherDvr (Post 1761668)

You're right, he did upgrade sooner, and then was down graded less than a year later.

Originally Posted by pilot0987 (Post 1761693)

Any truth to what your recruiters are saying. Hiring Street Captains starting at 48 an hour?

Originally Posted by RgrMurdock (Post 1761686)

Your timeline is off. It's never taken that long to re upgrade. 8 years max. Look you can act all high and mighty and pass judgement on this company and every regional out there. You can act like you stood up to the man. But bottom line is the company told you to do something that is well within their rights to do and you lied and then got caught with your pants down. Kind of hypocritical if you ask me considering what you are accusing the recruiting department of.

Originally Posted by minimwage4 (Post 1761766)

There were quick upgrades because a lot of the guys hired 2 years ago came in with 1500 and less so they didn't meet the times to upgrade and guys were skipping over them. So I suspect soon new hires will actually have to wait their turn to upgrade. And street captains will be at the bottom indefinitely. I think we already have all captains and future captains for these new planes on property unless there's mass attrition.

Originally Posted by Pilottim79 (Post 1761823)

There are only like 50 FOs are eligible for upgrade. There are a ton of FOs that are a long way from upgrade time.

Quick upgrade is to be had at TSA. Especially when our second code share is announced and the rest of the XRs are announced.

Originally Posted by N6279P (Post 1761833)

Nowhere does it say on any press release you're getting XR's. But please, continue to gloat over a quick upgrade.

Originally Posted by Pilottim79 (Post 1761823)

There are only like 50 FOs are eligible for upgrade. There are a ton of FOs that are a long way from upgrade time.

Quick upgrade is to be had at TSA. Especially when our second code share is announced and the rest of the XRs are announced.

Originally Posted by amcnd (Post 1761866)

Is that the "XJT's XR's for Commpas 175's swap"... Seems even trade...

Originally Posted by N6279P (Post 1761833)

Nowhere does it say on any press release you're getting XR's. But please, continue to gloat over a quick upgrade.

Originally Posted by Pilottim79 (Post 1761869)

Well, excuse us for being happy on our own thread. Is there an industry rule against happy pilots?

Originally Posted by Pilottim79 (Post 1761842)

That stepping stone is real short when you get terminated from one, no?

Originally Posted by ArcherDvr (Post 1761897)

Since you want to follow me around and mudsling, I'll bring it to your thread. It was a short stepping stone for me. I took that EMB-145 rating, and a am using it to make more money than I'd be making at TSA year two, and soon more than I'd be making as a captain, with a better QOL for me.

Originally Posted by Pilottim79 (Post 1761869)

Well, excuse us for being happy on our own thread. Is there an industry rule against happy pilots?

Originally Posted by ArcherDvr (Post 1761897)

Since you want to follow me around and mudsling, I'll bring it to your thread. It was a short stepping stone for me. I took that EMB-145 rating, and a am using it to make more money than I'd be making at TSA year two, and soon more than I'd be making as a captain, with a better QOL for me.

Originally Posted by RodJohnson (Post 1761907)

Great, your the man.... Now leave

Originally Posted by CBreezy (Post 1761901)

Cool story. Mine is still better. .

Originally Posted by ArcherDvr (Post 1761912)

I didn't ask.

Originally Posted by ArcherDvr (Post 1761911)

I did leave and one of your buddies followed me into another thread. But in the future I'll leave when I'm ready.

Originally Posted by ArcherDvr (Post 1761911)

I did leave and one of your buddies followed me into another thread. But in the future I'll leave when I'm ready.

Originally Posted by RodJohnson (Post 1761916)

I take it you are flying for a 135 on demand charter company now, which is a garbage job and yes I've done it for years, so why do you linger and irritate those in the regional airline world?? Somebody needs a constructive hobby!

Originally Posted by ArcherDvr (Post 1761919)

Hey, all I said in my first post was "I think it's more carrot dangling." And I also said "I could be wrong." You decided to attack me personally. I didn't attack you, I bring up the same issues of carrot dangling and recruiting shenanigans that I've heard countless TSA and regional pilots complain about in cockpits and crew rooms over and over again.
Unfortunately for you, I have a problem with what happened at TSA, and I'm free to post my negative experience in any forum I please. You don't agree, post the opposite and move on. Try to attack me personally, I'll have something to say about it, in your thread.
Sorry you felt your 135 on demand charter job was garbage.

Originally Posted by RodJohnson (Post 1761921)

All 135 charter jobs are garbage!! Get back to me in a couple years and tell me how you like it...

Originally Posted by ArcherDvr (Post 1761897)

Since you want to follow me around and mudsling, I'll bring it to your thread. It was a short stepping stone for me. I took that EMB-145 rating, and a am using it to make more money than I'd be making at TSA year two, and soon more than I'd be making as a captain, with a better QOL for me.

Originally Posted by TeamRamRod (Post 1761918)

^ Go play with your friends man.
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