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billyho 11-18-2014 02:00 PM


Originally Posted by rickt86 (Post 1766085)
Pdt timeline was added by me the rest from the inside. I do know the dash 8s go bye bye next year.

Dash's don't go bye bye until probably 2020. The few that time out will not being going to the paint shop. The rest which is about 25 will be painted.

lakehouse 11-18-2014 05:15 PM


Originally Posted by billyho (Post 1766093)
Dash's don't go bye bye until probably 2020. The few that time out will not being going to the paint shop. The rest which is about 25 will be painted.

Let's look at this dec 1 2015

billyho 11-18-2014 05:26 PM


Originally Posted by rickt86 (Post 1766230)
Let's look at this dec 1 2015


Won't say it can't happen but AAG just extended the leases on all the Dash 8 300's through 2019. And the 100's are owned. Really no reason to park any of them. There old but they are cash cows for AAG.

wt932051 11-19-2014 01:34 AM


Originally Posted by Ramprat (Post 1765682)
Yeah...sure you will buddy.

Also, you guys were awarded all that west coast flying because you have such a awesome contract right?

Yes, I will give them a good lecture. Sounds like you work for PSA. Best you stay away from my jump seat then.

Your forgetting we lost a lot of flying also.

Mesa has not taken any concessions since the freedom contract. We are the lowest paid, thanks to freedom A scabs. That is what backstabbers do to you. They destroy your airline or set you back big time. Look at the GoJet situation and how that turned out. Now PSA/Piedmont is gonna take Eagle out just by voting yes. The new bread of scabs called scum.

I never said our contract was awesome. You did. We have a ton we need to fix. You have no idea what freedom cost us it sounds. Your just jumping on the bandwagon. It is not easy having JO as our CEO.

Good luck Eagle (Envoy) guys/gals with your fight with American. I really do hope things turn out good for you.

wt932051 11-19-2014 01:37 AM


Originally Posted by CBreezy (Post 1765688)
I'm not saying your union isn't working hard, but in the current environment, where there are dozens of articles and a government report that details a shortage of willing labor AND the fact that your company continues to expand, how do you have no leverage? I would argue that you have more leverage than you've ever had!

If we could get other regional pilots to stop coming to Mesa then we would have enough leverage to get a good contract.

wt932051 11-19-2014 01:38 AM


Originally Posted by billyho (Post 1765705)
This is sad and funny! If you've been at Mesa for 12 years you would know all about backstabbing and bending over. Now go enjoy DFW and LAX. Remember none of it in CLT was ever "your" flying.

I stand corrected. It is and should be the major airlines flying. Thanks for pointing that out.

I do understand it. Instead of regional pilots banding together. I have learned regional pilots are all backstabbing to their fellow regional partners. That is what is sad.

Eagle is learning that right now after voting no how quickly (PSA/Piedmont) swooped in to take it.

billyho 11-19-2014 02:24 AM


Originally Posted by wt932051 (Post 1766357)
Mesa has not taken any concessions since the freedom contract. We are the lowest paid, thanks to freedom A scabs. That is what backstabbers do to you. They destroy your airline or set you back big time. Look at the GoJet situation and how that turned out. Now PSA/Piedmont is gonna take Eagle out just by voting yes. The new bread of scabs called scum.

I never said our contract was awesome. You did. We have a ton we need to fix. You have no idea what freedom cost us it sounds. Your just jumping on the bandwagon. It is not easy having JO as our CEO.

Do you realize you sound like a idiot? How is Piedmont and Psa taking out Eagle? Eagle voted knowing full we'll what could happen. How about you worry about fixing Mesa before throwing the word scab around. Mesa has screwed over tons of airlines and pilot negotiations. Be gone!!! And I'd take a jumpseat debate on any day with a Mesa pilot. Bring it!!!

billyho 11-19-2014 02:35 AM


Originally Posted by wt932051 (Post 1766359)

Eagle is learning that right now after voting no how quickly (PSA/Piedmont) swooped in to take it.

Oh you mean like what Mesa did to CCAir after they voted 3 times not to have Mesa's crappy contract shoved done there throats??? Remember people with dirty hands shouldn't point fingers.

billyho 11-19-2014 03:04 AM

Waiting to hear..... Thank you sir may I have another :-)

CBreezy 11-19-2014 04:40 AM


Originally Posted by wt932051 (Post 1766358)
If we could get other regional pilots to stop coming to Mesa then we would have enough leverage to get a good contract.

THen talk to your cheerleaders who say the contract us great.


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