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Timma 11-30-2014 06:21 AM


Originally Posted by N6279P (Post 1773130)
For starters, the wage comparison chart is ridiculous. If 1000 hours 121 times is required, a potential candidate would be well past first year pay making the wage gap significantly smaller. Second, TSA's performance has been horrible without all these new planes; I wouldn't bet my job in hoping all of these 'new' planes actually end up showing up.

First.. It's 121 or 135 time or combination of the two..

Second.. You mean to tell me 2nd 3rd or even top end pay at any other regional carrier carrier would be more than 43.42/hr in the right seat and 62.00/hr in the left seat?? Add that up for me..

2nd year is 52.00/hr right seat and 63.00 in the left..

Third.. That really won't matter because any CQFO hired now will be awarded full captain bid within a year anyway..

Thanks for trying..

MavAv8r 11-30-2014 06:44 AM


Originally Posted by N6279P (Post 1773130)
For starters, the wage comparison chart is ridiculous. If 1000 hours 121 times is required, a potential candidate would be well past first year pay making the wage gap significantly smaller. Second, TSA's performance has been horrible without all these new planes; I wouldn't bet my job in hoping all of these 'new' planes actually end up showing up.

Show me where TSA's performance has been terrible. The last time I saw the charts we were top 3 in completion factor and on time departure. Who was last you ask? The same place the aircraft are coming from....

It doesn't take that long to get 1000 SIC if you work hard.

Baxter76 11-30-2014 07:02 AM

Not sure if anyone has asked but is this an LOA to the contract? And where is this supposed second year pay scale of 52/hr posted?f

CBreezy 11-30-2014 07:08 AM


Originally Posted by Baxter76 (Post 1773154)
Not sure if anyone has asked but is this an LOA to the contract? And where is this supposed second year pay scale of 52/hr posted?f

Jesus. Reading comprehension. CQFO is a blended rate. The average between first and second year pay. Do the math.

buddies8 11-30-2014 07:13 AM


Originally Posted by MavAv8r (Post 1773146)
Show me where TSA's performance has been terrible. The last time I saw the charts we were top 3 in completion factor and on time departure. Who was last you ask? The same place the aircraft are coming from....

It doesn't take that long to get 1000 SIC if you work hard.

You fail to understand, we don't care about performance
Because it is out of our control. When aag cancels your flight or delays your flights or that ord, nyc, dfw go down the rubes aag Wil run mainline on time and throw the rest under the bus. Then blame you for poor performance to have you work more for less. So we are back to where WE DONT CARE.

Pilottim79 11-30-2014 10:17 AM


Originally Posted by buddies8 (Post 1773160)
You fail to understand, we don't care about performance
Because it is out of our control. When aag cancels your flight or delays your flights or that ord, nyc, dfw go down the rubes aag Wil run mainline on time and throw the rest under the bus. Then blame you for poor performance to have you work more for less. So we are back to where WE DONT CARE.

You must not be a Captain. Captains have huge control over on time and completion performance. If you don't think so then you have your head in the sand.

buddies8 11-30-2014 10:32 AM

A feeders performance comes from aircraft not broken, properly staffed airline, schedules that are not rediculous, mainline not cancelling your flights to run mainline on schedule on weather days, this is what controls performance and the finally the captain if the captain lies about out and in times. If you call the times as they are then the captain does not control the performance, management and station control. That is reality.

CBreezy 11-30-2014 10:54 AM


Originally Posted by buddies8 (Post 1773241)
A feeders performance comes from aircraft not broken, properly staffed airline, schedules that are not rediculous, mainline not cancelling your flights to run mainline on schedule on weather days, this is what controls performance and the finally the captain if the captain lies about out and in times. If you call the times as they are then the captain does not control the performance, management and station control. That is reality.

Unless you have ACARS and it reports automatically. That is reality.

Besides Republic, who else doesnt have ACARS?

TeamRamRod 11-30-2014 12:17 PM


Originally Posted by buddies8 (Post 1773160)
You fail to understand, we don't care about performance
Because it is out of our control. When aag cancels your flight or delays your flights or that ord, nyc, dfw go down the rubes aag Wil run mainline on time and throw the rest under the bus. Then blame you for poor performance to have you work more for less. So we are back to where WE DONT CARE.

"CONTROLLABLE Completion". If AAG/UAL cancels the flight, it doesn't affect TSA performance one bit. If the regional cancels the flight, then yes. But if United or American chooses the mainline flights over the regionals it doesn't screw with regional perf numbers.

buddies8 11-30-2014 02:19 PM

On a more solid note, how long of a term is the feed with aag.


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