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MavAv8r 12-02-2014 05:58 AM


Originally Posted by PapaMike (Post 1774431)
LOL! quoting numbers that miss a WHOLE lot of information.

How do you expect those 500 new pilots to all get this magical upgrade u discuss??? OOOHHHH!! That's right! You will need 450 guys behind them to get hired. DING DING DING we have a winner! So the 500 for the new aircraft + 450 for those to upgrade to keep the gravy train moving = ?????

Idk, im told i'm not good at math, can you answer this for me, god of the calculator?

Everyone at TSA is selling this as "come here and upgrade within a year guaranteed". Do some serious thinking about this. Even if you are one of the first to go, you still need the guys behind you to follow.

Eventually you will stop getting prior 121 to make the jump. If you are a new hire, as i have said several times already, it makes a lot more sense to go to Endeavor than TSA. You wont upgrade there for awhile and you will make more than 30 grand extra at Endeavor.

Even if you could maintain 20 a month, Endeavor will have more and therefor a quicker long-term path to the left seat especially for the newbs to the industry. That's where the long-term movement will stem, new faces. At Endeavor net downgrades have stopped, attrition has slowed to a halt, other people are actually intelligent and coming here. It's been a rough couple years but times are a changin'.

There you go again with Endeavor. Give it a rest. No one ever said a guy hired in June, fresh CFI for example will see a 12 month upgrade. I realize you have an agenda to push here, but you are wrong. Anyone can do math, I think, so do the math and get in early ask questions later. Add attrition to the growth announced and the upgrade will stay at less than two years for a while. What's it at Bendeavor? Last I heard 7-8 year guys were being...what's that?...downgraded.

It's no secret that guys with the time here will upgrade lightning quick. Guys without the time are still going to experience great movement and upgrade in under two years easily.

MavAv8r 12-02-2014 06:00 AM


Originally Posted by Paid2fly (Post 1774351)
For breakfast or brunch?

Both. Parker likes to party.

TeamRamRod 12-02-2014 06:03 AM


Originally Posted by PapaMike (Post 1774431)

At Endeavor net downgrades have stopped, attrition has slowed to a halt, other people are actually intelligent and coming here. It's been a rough couple years but times are a changin'.

Okay. Now the retardation makes alot more sense. You realize the company has to still be in business for you to somehow make this mythical 90 grand, right?

MavAv8r 12-02-2014 06:05 AM


Originally Posted by TeamRamRod (Post 1774453)
Okay. Now the retardation makes alot more sense. You realize the company has to still be in business for you to somehow make this mythical 90 grand, right?

I had a bad case of loser denial myself, till the lacrosse team shoved a parking cone up my a**


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