Originally Posted by publicphone (Post 1770654)

Well folks, I don't know why our MEC continues to hide specifics from you, but here are some more.

We begin transferring our CRJs to PSA in June of 2015.
We will park the remaining 38 EMB140s in 2015.
We will transfer 15 EMB145s to Trans States in 2015.
Then, we will transfer another 15 EMB145s to a yet unnamed airline in 2016.
We will transfer another 20 EMB145s to Piedmont, all in 2016.

That means that we will have gone from over 300 aircraft at the end of 2008 to 68 airplanes by the end of 2016. Additionally, the company disclosed a long time ago that with less than 70 aircraft on property, the flight department could not make a profit and would be liquidated.

So let's think this through. A few months ago, we had the opportunity to lock in 170 aircraft guarantee with NO wiggle room for management, despite Ray Igou's current lies about management having the ability to stop the flow or reduce the aircraft guarantee due to staffing. Not only was Ray Igou not there at the time, but his individual has already proven his gross inability to maintain any actual facts as was again proven on Council 121's teleconference.

So management is still offering a fleet guarantee, an enhanced flow, and relief on the 12/4 caps, should AA slow or stop its hiring. But our self-serving MEC continues to hide the ball.

Someone should please help me understand how your elected representatives have helped you. They have lost 40 aircraft from the fleet guarantee, they have lost most of the 145s, the have lost our CRJs and the promised 900s, they have lost all credibility with the APA, and they are jeopardizing the flow through for the rest of us.

Tell the MEC to put the proposal out for a vote and to get their self-serving personalities out of the way.

Originally Posted by Slick111 (Post 1771242)

Slightly off topic,.....

“This transfer is solely driven by forecasts showing an insufficient number of pilots at Envoy in 2015 to operate our planned schedule,” American SVP-regional carriers Kenji Hashimoto said in a letter to Envoy employees.
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This leads me to two thoughts/questions. Is AAG taking this opportunity to:
1) lower their costs by getting rid of their highest-cost regional affiliate and transferring aircraft to other regional affiliates who's cost will (initially) continue to decline, while
2) using a (self-induced) staffing shortage at Envoy as proof that government regulation is causing a shortage of available pilots and that the government must relax the new experience requirements for 121 first officers so that the (voting) public will not be unfairly burdened and inconvenienced by cancelled flights and reductions in service to smaller communities.

Just something to think about. God knows that Parker, Glass, Kirby, et al. are always thinking.

Originally Posted by citxls (Post 1771112)

There is always the 10% of losers group out there who is emailing Sam Pool begging him to make a deal. Keep our jobs, **** the pay.

Sad way to live.

Originally Posted by Alex14 (Post 1771295)

Is there any hope for a future at Envoy for a new hire? I have an offer, but wouldn't be able to start until May due to other obligations. This would be my first airline.

Originally Posted by Alex14 (Post 1771295)

Is there any hope for a future at Envoy for a new hire? I have an offer, but wouldn't be able to start until May due to other obligations. This would be my first airline.

Originally Posted by chignutsak (Post 1771323)

Tough to answer - obviously they are shrinking. How much remains to be seen. Also unknown is how many gummers stay - they could very well be swinging gear for each other.

"Positive rate, gear up. When did you get hired?"

"1997".

"Rookie!"