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Old 11-29-2014 | 05:02 AM
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See, I would never consider most of those to be "major" airlines. I know that most of them "technically" meet the definition, but I would rather work at a regional than some of those.
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Old 11-29-2014 | 05:37 AM
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Originally Posted by seattlepilot
8 years still stuck in right seat...
Damn that sucks.
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Old 11-29-2014 | 06:10 AM
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Originally Posted by rcfd13
Haha are you trolling? You can't even get off reserve as an FO at most regionals by 3 1/2 years. Upgrade is 6-8 most places. The big three UA, AA and DL only hire with no PIC if you're a girl or the son of the chief pilot. I haven't heard of anyone who fits into neither of those two categories who has gone to a major in under 5 years recently.

If you're counting Spirit, Allegiant and Virgin as majors I can see people getting there in 3.5 with a lot of persistence, but definitely not UA, AA and DL.
Hockey, 80kts & myself are all at DAL. There was a VERY small window in '03-'07 that some of us slipped through. Admittedly we are the exception & not the norm. I went from my 1st Pvt Pilot lesson to an RJ in 11 months. 9E newhire 12/04....DAL Newhire 35 months later. Varied resume', small business owner, BA, previous enlisted military, base CP.

5 years from now the above will be the norm and not the exception. Right now just TPIC won't even get you an interview. You need to stand out, MBA, CP, LCP, community volunteer, Safety Committee or something else besides just showing up for work. Blemish free background & perfect credit, no rediculous FB posts or negative nancy comments about your current or (desired) future employer. They are vetting EVERYTHING. DAL has 70 full time people who do nothing but troll the webs looking for anything to do with DAL. I'd imagine the other carriers do as well. You want to be at the forefront of the hiring wave just beginning....you need to do something to set yourself apart from the other 10,000 RJ Capts with 1000's of hrs of TPIC.
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Old 11-29-2014 | 06:20 AM
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4.5 years for me.

Just over 1000 tpic.

I knew nobody. Simply applied and was lucky.

Legacy.

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Old 11-29-2014 | 06:26 AM
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I have been at my current airline almost 11 years. No calls at majors. I have almost 6000 turbine PIC and about 10K hours. Some people say the majors are bypassing high PIC folks like myself.

Not sure what the secret is but it's not based on time, that's for sure.

No skeletons in the closet either. No failed rides, no DUI, no red flags. Just no calls either.

So there is no average time.

Many of the people I see getting hired seem to fall into a category or two - right school (contacts) or they have other advantages that HR departments like. Without these things the number of people I know getting calls at majors drops off a cliff.
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Old 11-29-2014 | 07:19 AM
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Something to consider is the average age of newhires. It's much higher than in previous cycles. First half of 2014 AA's avg off the street newhire was 37 yrs old. Only a couple under 30 got hired.
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Old 11-29-2014 | 08:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Sliceback
Something to consider is the average age of newhires. It's much higher than in previous cycles. First half of 2014 AA's avg off the street newhire was 37 yrs old. Only a couple under 30 got hired.
not true. there were many in my class that were at or under 30. I was 29 and wasn't the youngest.
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Old 11-29-2014 | 08:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Erdude32
Hockey, 80kts & myself are all at DAL. There was a VERY small window in '03-'07 that some of us slipped through. Admittedly we are the exception & not the norm. I went from my 1st Pvt Pilot lesson to an RJ in 11 months. 9E newhire 12/04....DAL Newhire 35 months later. Varied resume', small business owner, BA, previous enlisted military, base CP.

5 years from now the above will be the norm and not the exception. Right now just TPIC won't even get you an interview. You need to stand out, MBA, CP, LCP, community volunteer, Safety Committee or something else besides just showing up for work. Blemish free background & perfect credit, no rediculous FB posts or negative nancy comments about your current or (desired) future employer. They are vetting EVERYTHING. DAL has 70 full time people who do nothing but troll the webs looking for anything to do with DAL. I'd imagine the other carriers do as well. You want to be at the forefront of the hiring wave just beginning....you need to do something to set yourself apart from the other 10,000 RJ Capts with 1000's of hrs of TPIC.
Hahahaha. Super pretentious post and... Not exactly right based on the guys I know at DL.
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Old 11-29-2014 | 09:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Al Czervik
Hahahaha. Super pretentious post and... Not exactly right based on the guys I know at DL.
Exactly how is that prententious? Was just answering the previous poster that not everyone is stuck at the Regionals for years & years....and offering some very sound advice on how to get a resume noticed? Everyone you know at DAL may have been hired under different times/circumstances and may or may not have gotten a call in today's environment. My phone would probably be silent as well considering how competitive hiring currently is.

It was not my intent to come across as prententious at all. Simply pointing out the facts. There will be PLENTY of jobs available for those who simply want to show up, fly their trips & go home.....5 years from now. You want to get in at the beginning of the hiring wave you HAVE to set yourself apart from the crowd. If by pointing that out I'm prententious then I guess I am.
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Old 11-29-2014 | 09:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Erdude32
I went from my 1st Pvt Pilot lesson to an RJ in 11 months. 9E newhire 12/04....
Wow I've been flying longer than you and I'm still right seat in an RJ. My first flight was January 02.
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