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#23
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Haha are you trolling? You can't even get off reserve as an FO at most regionals by 3 1/2 years. Upgrade is 6-8 most places. The big three UA, AA and DL only hire with no PIC if you're a girl or the son of the chief pilot. I haven't heard of anyone who fits into neither of those two categories who has gone to a major in under 5 years recently.
If you're counting Spirit, Allegiant and Virgin as majors I can see people getting there in 3.5 with a lot of persistence, but definitely not UA, AA and DL.
If you're counting Spirit, Allegiant and Virgin as majors I can see people getting there in 3.5 with a lot of persistence, but definitely not UA, AA and DL.
5 years from now the above will be the norm and not the exception. Right now just TPIC won't even get you an interview. You need to stand out, MBA, CP, LCP, community volunteer, Safety Committee or something else besides just showing up for work. Blemish free background & perfect credit, no rediculous FB posts or negative nancy comments about your current or (desired) future employer. They are vetting EVERYTHING. DAL has 70 full time people who do nothing but troll the webs looking for anything to do with DAL. I'd imagine the other carriers do as well. You want to be at the forefront of the hiring wave just beginning....you need to do something to set yourself apart from the other 10,000 RJ Capts with 1000's of hrs of TPIC.
#25
I have been at my current airline almost 11 years. No calls at majors. I have almost 6000 turbine PIC and about 10K hours. Some people say the majors are bypassing high PIC folks like myself.
Not sure what the secret is but it's not based on time, that's for sure.
No skeletons in the closet either. No failed rides, no DUI, no red flags. Just no calls either.
So there is no average time.
Many of the people I see getting hired seem to fall into a category or two - right school (contacts) or they have other advantages that HR departments like. Without these things the number of people I know getting calls at majors drops off a cliff.
Not sure what the secret is but it's not based on time, that's for sure.
No skeletons in the closet either. No failed rides, no DUI, no red flags. Just no calls either.
So there is no average time.
Many of the people I see getting hired seem to fall into a category or two - right school (contacts) or they have other advantages that HR departments like. Without these things the number of people I know getting calls at majors drops off a cliff.
#26
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Something to consider is the average age of newhires. It's much higher than in previous cycles. First half of 2014 AA's avg off the street newhire was 37 yrs old. Only a couple under 30 got hired.
#27
not true. there were many in my class that were at or under 30. I was 29 and wasn't the youngest.
#28
Hockey, 80kts & myself are all at DAL. There was a VERY small window in '03-'07 that some of us slipped through. Admittedly we are the exception & not the norm. I went from my 1st Pvt Pilot lesson to an RJ in 11 months. 9E newhire 12/04....DAL Newhire 35 months later. Varied resume', small business owner, BA, previous enlisted military, base CP.
5 years from now the above will be the norm and not the exception. Right now just TPIC won't even get you an interview. You need to stand out, MBA, CP, LCP, community volunteer, Safety Committee or something else besides just showing up for work. Blemish free background & perfect credit, no rediculous FB posts or negative nancy comments about your current or (desired) future employer. They are vetting EVERYTHING. DAL has 70 full time people who do nothing but troll the webs looking for anything to do with DAL. I'd imagine the other carriers do as well. You want to be at the forefront of the hiring wave just beginning....you need to do something to set yourself apart from the other 10,000 RJ Capts with 1000's of hrs of TPIC.
5 years from now the above will be the norm and not the exception. Right now just TPIC won't even get you an interview. You need to stand out, MBA, CP, LCP, community volunteer, Safety Committee or something else besides just showing up for work. Blemish free background & perfect credit, no rediculous FB posts or negative nancy comments about your current or (desired) future employer. They are vetting EVERYTHING. DAL has 70 full time people who do nothing but troll the webs looking for anything to do with DAL. I'd imagine the other carriers do as well. You want to be at the forefront of the hiring wave just beginning....you need to do something to set yourself apart from the other 10,000 RJ Capts with 1000's of hrs of TPIC.
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It was not my intent to come across as prententious at all. Simply pointing out the facts. There will be PLENTY of jobs available for those who simply want to show up, fly their trips & go home.....5 years from now. You want to get in at the beginning of the hiring wave you HAVE to set yourself apart from the crowd. If by pointing that out I'm prententious then I guess I am.
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