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Originally Posted by Sooner91 (Post 1783204)

I am going to be getting my commercial and flight instructor ratings within the next month and a half. With the pipeline program that Envoy has, would it be wise with Envoy's potential new TA to try to get on board with them soon? Or still wise to hold out and wait till I'm closer to the 1500 hours and go for the best option at that time?

Disclaimer: Will be living in Dallas for the next 5 years probably so that is why Envoy is definitely an option for me.

Thanks!

In my opinion, the regional industry changes drastically all the time. The only constant is change. Why tie yourself into some contract that may end up being a bad thing down the road? I'd rather keep my options open personally. And it will take you some time to build what you need. The industry will look a lot different by then.

Roll the dice, it's all **** luck

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Originally Posted by Ging (Post 1783011)

Hey Guys-

Im about to go into the 121 world in the Spring and start doing my interviews and im trying to shift through all the politics and find the best one. I have friends in several different American Eagle outfits but all of them seem to think they are in the best setup. I think it is more they just don't want to admit there is another one that is better. Anyone out there have a broad enough view to give me which one is the best right now? I am flexible and going to move to my base I dont want to commute. I am simply looking for a fair deal, good group of guys where the planes are well cared for and the crews are happy. Any advise? I don't want to run all over the country doing interviews with each one to determine it. I would like to narrow it down to 2 or 3 and go interview with them and make a final decision.

Thanks!

My two cents:

I would go for the regional that has these qualities:

Low time on reserve and a relatively fast upgrade so you can start logging TPIC asap.

Bases in cheap cities that will allow you to survive on first year pay.

Travel benefits for you and your family anywhere in the world (not just jumpseat agreement).

A relatively small pilot group so that you can become senior quicker (i.e any growing regional with a pilot count of over 1000 pilots may not be relatively small)

A regional that just enters or will be entering a growth spurt at the moment you get a class date is good too.

Based on this, my choices would be PSA and TSA. Do your research on them, and don't let anyone here who is biased or bitter try to get you down - at the end of the day, it's your life and career. If I were you, I'd get on with either TSA or PSA, get your hours, pay your dues and once you have 1000 TPIC, go to Emirates or any airline in Asia that's hurting for pilots and watch how you'll go from $50k/year to $200k/year in no time.

Just know your options are plenty, especially now. Good luck!

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Originally Posted by Sooner91 (Post 1783204)

That's a good question. I'd ask in the Envoy forum.

Frank Doss, in TSA ground school, "Ya'all have just made the biggest mistake in your life"
Frank was right, and still is....

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Originally Posted by ClickClickBoom (Post 1783632)

Frank Doss, in TSA ground school, "Ya'all have just made the biggest mistake in your life"
Frank was right, and still is....

Wow, Frank. Now that is a name I haven't heard in a long time. Frank worked for Mike White as did all the old school TSA pilots.

New management, new philosophy, new company really. Don't take 15 year old advice in such a fluid industry.

That being said, in his day, at that time, Frank was right.

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Originally Posted by Sooner91 (Post 1783204)

It's a crapshoot at envoy right now, but getting on board sooner rather than later could pay off pretty well. Personally, I see this place turning a corner following ratification of the TA. If your goal is to fly for a legacy, envoy will get you there as long as you're willing to wait around a few years!

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Originally Posted by ClickClickBoom (Post 1783632)

Frank Doss, in TSA ground school, "Ya'all have just made the biggest mistake in your life"
Frank was right, and still is....

Frank Doss is still teaching for TSA???? He was our ground school instructor in 1989 when I was at TSA.

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Originally Posted by sublime259 (Post 1783659)

Are you referring to flow to AA?
But how long is a "few years" for a guy joining today?

If I were searching for regional work I would choose from the airlines that are discussed(debated, argued, etc...) the least on this website. If the place is headline news on the regional forum more than likely its in turmoil...No news is good news sometimes.