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Originally Posted by FaceBiter
(Post 1784524)
Cool story bro.
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Originally Posted by CBreezy
(Post 1784526)
I know people who are getting asked to leave the military due to downsizing with no transferable skills, at all, and aren't given a chance to return. I'd say that's worse.
Military trained people of every sort are employable in the private sector. If they didn't hear about the RIF and prepare that's another story. Airline furloughs are a management tool for a multitude of reasons, most are just nasty. I flew with UAL furloughs during the JetsForJobs program that allowed UAL to grow SKYW at the expense of the UAL pilot group. I made sure every single pilot knew that I was against what was was done to them. I was fortunate to fly with, every single UAL guy I went on a trip with. Every single one went out of their way to convey that they held their company responsible, and that I was as much a victim as they were. UAL was getting my services for 1/2 price and continues to get them today for the same bargain price, I am glad all the furloughees are back and making a good wage today. |
Originally Posted by tunes
(Post 1784629)
you do realize we had more pilots volunteer to get out early than spots available, right?
Also, very interested to hear about these non-transferable skills |
Originally Posted by CBreezy
(Post 1784650)
30% of the Space officers from the 06 year group got the ax. Not a lot of demand right now for space X2 or range operations in the civilian world, don't you think?
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Originally Posted by CBreezy
(Post 1784650)
30% of the Space officers from the 06 year group got the ax. Not a lot of demand right now for space X2 or range operations in the civilian world, don't you think?
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Originally Posted by tunes
(Post 1784651)
You do realize most civilian companies will take then in a heartbeat solely for their leadership experience, right?
Point is, you have as much "leadership" experience flying an airplane as you do in a ROPS, or a SOPS. For Mr Negative, I know a lot of people who planned on making the military a career and were forced to pack up their toys and go play somewhere else. The same can be said for a pilot. If you get furloughed, you're more than welcome to get a middle management supply chain management job like everyone else. Airlines aren't the worst job in the whole world. People lose their jobs. There's downsizing. It happens. That's what capitalism is all about. You don't like it, feel free to apply to work in a warehouse or selling medical supplies. |
Originally Posted by CBreezy
(Post 1784655)
Them? Me? Same category.
Point is, you have as much "leadership" experience flying an airplane as you do in a ROPS, or a SOPS. For Mr Negative, I know a lot of people who planned on making the military a career and were forced to pack up their toys and go play somewhere else. The same can be said for a pilot. If you get furloughed, you're more than welcome to get a middle management supply chain management job like everyone else. Airlines aren't the worst job in the whole world. People lose their jobs. There's downsizing. It happens. That's what capitalism is all about. You don't like it, feel free to apply to work in a warehouse or selling medical supplies. |
Originally Posted by tunes
(Post 1784658)
like it or not, no matter what job they worked in the military they had leadership experience that most companies find very valuable.
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Originally Posted by CBreezy
(Post 1784664)
Dude, reading comprehension. I'm a reserve officer. I GET IT. I'm telling you. An airline pilot has equal responsibility and leadership experiences, especially a Captain, as most ops CGOs in the Air Force. If you get furloughed, you're more than welcome to pack up your family and move to Oklahoma, Kansas, or central PA to work for an energy company like those who had to leave the Air Force.
I have lived in the same house I bought in 1981, I have been furloughed, regional bases closed, companies go into BK, gone to trade school, had no medical and dental insurance, and paid cash for both Doctors. I did whatever it took to "Keep on Truckin" I have also commuted coast to coast, been forced to stay in base because there was no time to commute home, so whats your point? Life is hard, and if you are gonna be dumb you better be strong. The airline business is mercurial in the best of years, my point is its a tough industry and it chews people up like nothing else, military included. |
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