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Freedom2 01-12-2015 09:28 PM

Stay in School!
 
I saw this on Facebook posted by someone from Gojet:


Chicago O'Hare International Airport
5 hrs ·
"Well, for those keeping score at home, just timed out in Chicago. That makes it a total of 9 hours pay for 4 days of my life. What'd we learn today kids??? Stay in school!"

That's right kids, the contract, or lack of it, determines your quality of life and your pay. If this person was a pilot at Skywest, or another reputable regional, there would have been a much different outcome. Until Gojet and some of the other regionals get a real contract (if ever), go where you are compensated for changes in the schedule. If these airlines want pilots they need to pay more than minimum wage. A secretary who can't type earns 50% more than a Gojet FO. A first year FA at Gojet makes $2000 more than a first year FO. They tell you how much they value you ! Ask them to show you the money. Ask them if they will fire you when you want the contract followed. Ask them what they did to the check airman who refused to takeoff with a 15 knot crosswind, without nose wheel steering, on an icy and snowy runway. The same with the other airlines. Make it a bidding war for money and quality of life issues. Ask them to answer for their past actions. Show them that pilots talk to each other and remember how the others were treated. If they know you care they will make a lot of changes.

Pilottim79 01-12-2015 09:40 PM


Originally Posted by Freedom2 (Post 1802205)
I saw this on Facebook posted by someone from Gojet:


Chicago O'Hare International Airport
5 hrs ·
"Well, for those keeping score at home, just timed out in Chicago. That makes it a total of 9 hours pay for 4 days of my life. What'd we learn today kids??? Stay in school!"

That's right kids, the contract, or lack of it, determines your quality of life and your pay. If this person was a pilot at Skywest, or another reputable regional, there would have been a much different outcome. Until Gojet and some of the other regionals get a real contract (if ever), go where you are compensated for changes in the schedule. If these airlines want pilots they need to pay more than minimum wage. A secretary who can't type earns 50% more than a Gojet FO. A first year FA at Gojet makes $2000 more than a first year FO. They tell you how much they value you ! Ask them to show you the money. Ask them if they will fire you when you want the contract followed. Ask them what they did to the check airman who refused to takeoff with a 15 knot crosswind, without nose wheel steering, on an icy and snowy runway. The same with the other airlines. Make it a bidding war for money and quality of life issues. Ask them to answer for their past actions. Show them that pilots talk to each other and remember how the others were treated. If they know you care they will make a lot of changes.

They kind of need a real, actual union first than will and can enforce a contract first. Without that they might as well promise free flying unicornsin their contract. Won't matter without a real union.

FaceBiter 01-12-2015 09:42 PM

But, but, but....... Upgrades????!!................

pagey 01-13-2015 04:15 AM


Originally Posted by FaceBiter (Post 1802207)
But, but, but....... Upgrades????!!................

Nah, you won't have to worry about that any time soon. :p

dirtysidedown 01-13-2015 04:22 AM

Here's an idea, read the friggen contract before accepting a job at these places. While all regionals basically suck,some are slightly better than others.

Drofdeb 01-13-2015 04:29 AM

Dont get married to the job. Dont pigeon-hole yourself. Quit............as soon as you can

sqwkvfr 01-13-2015 05:07 AM


Originally Posted by Freedom2 (Post 1802205)
If this person was a pilot at Skywest, or another reputable regional, there would have been a much different outcome.

Just to clarify, "or another reputable regional" does NOT include Republic, since I've also had a 4-day trip go sideways and only earned 9:19 credit.

JohnnyDingus 01-13-2015 05:11 AM

Stay in School!
 
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MavAv8r 01-13-2015 05:49 AM


Originally Posted by Freedom2 (Post 1802205)
I saw this on Facebook posted by someone from Gojet:


Chicago O'Hare International Airport
5 hrs ·
"Well, for those keeping score at home, just timed out in Chicago. That makes it a total of 9 hours pay for 4 days of my life. What'd we learn today kids??? Stay in school!"

That's right kids, the contract, or lack of it, determines your quality of life and your pay. If this person was a pilot at Skywest, or another reputable regional, there would have been a much different outcome. Until Gojet and some of the other regionals get a real contract (if ever), go where you are compensated for changes in the schedule. If these airlines want pilots they need to pay more than minimum wage. A secretary who can't type earns 50% more than a Gojet FO. A first year FA at Gojet makes $2000 more than a first year FO. They tell you how much they value you ! Ask them to show you the money. Ask them if they will fire you when you want the contract followed. Ask them what they did to the check airman who refused to takeoff with a 15 knot crosswind, without nose wheel steering, on an icy and snowy runway. The same with the other airlines. Make it a bidding war for money and quality of life issues. Ask them to answer for their past actions. Show them that pilots talk to each other and remember how the others were treated. If they know you care they will make a lot of changes.

I have ZERO sympathy for Blow Jetters. You knew what you were getting into before you accepted that job. Now you expect us to feel sorry for you? Give me a break! It took 10 minutes, yes 10 minutes, of research on my behalf to realize there was no way in hell, I would ever accept a position at Go Jet.

Don't **** and moan about Go Jet and then expect sympathy. You did it to yourself, and you knew you were doing it before you showed up to class. Honestly, what did you really expect? That everyone out there ripping on this place and it's contract were lying? Did you think you would show up and the place would suddenly get awesome?

Pilottim79 01-13-2015 06:06 AM


Originally Posted by sqwkvfr (Post 1802264)
Just to clarify, "or another reputable regional" does NOT include Republic, since I've also had a 4-day trip go sideways and only earned 9:19 credit.

Oh man, if you aren't Captain yet I would move like NOW! Get out quick. If you are Captain maybe your in too deep now. Sorry.


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