"Discussions" with AAG
 

February 26, 2015



MEC SPECIAL MEETING UPDATE





Fellow Pilots -



The MEC met in Euless today for a special meeting with AAG corporate executives. Representing AAG were Mr. Robert Isom, Mr. Kenji Hashimoto and our CEO Mr. Pedro Fabregas. The MEC had expected Mr. Isom, and found it positive that AAG also sent Mr. Hashimoto to the meeting since AAG Officers have not met with any other regional MEC in recent memory. The MEC had requested this meeting with AAG to seek clarity on the future of our airline.



The MEC articulated the concerns of the pilots and asked the tough questions, which the AAG executives answered candidly. Mr. Isom acknowledged that retaining pilots needs to be a high priority and Mr. Hashimoto and Mr. Fabregas were to meet later in the day back at HQ to chart solutions. We impressed upon them that these are time critical initiatives and that action needs to come sooner rather than later.



We were informed that our pilot applications have significantly increased each month since signing the new CBA, however attrition still remains higher than anticipated.



It is the MEC’s position that the company must aggressively pursue significant improvements to our working conditions, strive to improve employee morale, and establish a retention program that will give our pilots a reason to stay here.



While the meeting left the MEC members with a positive opinion of the plans AAG has for our airline, there can be no mistaking that up until this point we have witnessed very few actions. That said, the good faith shown by AAG of sending top leaders to meet with us, to acknowledge the issues facing our airline, and to commit to immediately working to address those issues cannot be discounted.



The MEC will continue working to advance our pilots’ agenda and awaits a timely response from management.



In Unity,



Sam Pool

MEC Chairman

Sounds like things are back to normal now.

Wow, that was quick. Well done!

Hope it makes you feel all warm and fuzzy, sharing your Union's news to the world before your own colleagues that are working have had the chance to see it.

I'd have to agree that this is not the place for Union communications.

Why not? What's the harm in sharing this with other pilot groups?

Really this place right now is populated by pilot groups benefiting from the demise of envoy. You think they want to hear anything even remotely good? Do you think they will wish us well, or just bash? Why bother? If pilots from other tegionals want to hear this stuff bad enough, they can get it from their friends.

This is rich coming from a guy who does nothing but go around bashing other pilot groups....

Just the underhanded ones

Hypocrite..... Looked it up in Webster's and saw your picture..... Ironic....

Improper use of ironic. Repeat 4th down.

What's the benefit?

Information, what's the harm? The envoy MEC has made a policy to use social media to disseminate information to as many of their pilot group as quickly as they can. This is just another platform.

I'm curious what demographic isn't getting it over a registered email but is getting their news from an internet message board?

Whatever makes you sleep man ;)

I don't think it's about any one demographic. It's about disseminating the information as quickly as possible to ensure all envoy pilots are made aware. In the past there have been accusations of underhanded back room deals.

The MEC officially distributes its information via several Internet message boards, email blasts, facebook, Dropbox, Twitter, the public and private sections of the envoy ALPA site, to name a few.

like I said....
 

Non-disclosed closed door meetings and over the phone negotiations are happening very frequently here at HQ. I would expect to see some news or a "preview" of an LOA or possibly some more "leaked" info gauging the pilot group response by mid to late March.

Well March then agree then implement will be two months down the road and to late. What is stupid is AAG has three carriers offering flow as an enticement to attract new pilots. AAG has three carriers trying to steal pilots from each other. AAG is a cluster f,

Exactly...


Every other regional pilots are distributing their kool aid. They just don't want to read anything good about envoy.

Will the real Mason32 please stand up?

Thanks for the post!!!! I hope good things come for you guys/gals. Hopefully, AAG will start throwing out retention money like DAL did with 9E.

from someone in EL


Talked to a rep today highlights follows: Isom was straightforward during the meeting answering questions quickly and comfortably. Hashimoto was much more guarded and cagy. The company admitted that they expected attrition to slow or stop after the TA and it hasn't and they are "concerned". Someone at the meeting admitted that they have intentionally been putting us through the wringer for the last 18 months essentially toying with us since the no vote. PSA training is at capacity and cannot increase hiring or training anymore therefore the only new flying they will get is being pushed out into the future. The OT and hotel LOA has been approved. New scheduling software has been paid for and is being implemented for future schedules. CDO's may be going away. iPad talks continue and the company wants them at PSA and Piedmont as well this is slowing implementation down. 4g connectivity to have releases available paperless. Fabregas was sent to HQ after the meeting to go over ideas about staffing and attrition with Hashimoto.

PSA is still going to be taking delivery of 3 aircraft per month, so yes they will continue to have an increase in flying. Nothing is being pushed out into the future, other than the completion of the CRJ7 transfer due to the additional 24 CRJ9 coming online.

Air101 don't get your *** in an uproar, no one said PSA is shutting down, so take a Valium and settle down.

We did not need AAG management admit they have been dI cking with envoy, now they have a real problem on there hands, no one wants to stay here and no one wants to come here.

They get scared if envoy start getting people. Because that means PSA hiring will be slowing down. You don't want that if you just got hired at PSA, so full KOOL aid for the NH.

Let's be real, PSA is growing so much and too fast for what they really can do. AAG just want to keep that illusion as long as they can...

I don't have a dog in the fight, I don't give two sh!Ts...but for someone to just sit and type a bunch of bullsh!t contrary to the facts needs to be called out.

If you actually read what he wrote, he said new flying not scheduled flying.

He's saying that no more additional aircraft would be added over and above current deliveries because PSA is already at max capacity, they can't take on any more.

I'm really happy you guys are growing so much, mainline is losing 30 airplanes and -400+ pilots in 2015.

The self-proclaimed Golden Children of aviation are really good at making a mostly empty glass look like it's overflowing.

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haha. Told ya. If there is ANY good news for envoy, the kids are going to freak out. The success at places like PSA, TSA, and Mesa depends on other airlines, like envoy and Xjet, continuing to bleed. Any signs of life and they need to come on here and try to squash it quickly. Unfortunately for them, both airlines will continue to survive. envoy is already rounding the corner. If they want to come on our threads then I will continue to enjoy rubbing it in when their estimated upgrade times begin to stagnate.

Well you were. What did I say that was bull, for you relax and that AAG has a problem of keeping pilots or even hiring pilots at envoy.

There's a drink for you waiting by the cooler.

I don't think it is contrary to anything. You read what you wanted to see and got scared kiddo. Like the others said - chill homie. PSA is still getting everything they were promised. AAG was just reinforcing that they weren't able to give anymore, AT THIS TIME. It wasn't meant as a dig on PSA. It was meant to let envoy know that they do have a plan for at least 25 E-175 options to be given to them, eventually.
Really, there is more than that, but I would be giving too much away.
Bottom line: settle down. You are fine. However, pilfering pilots from envoy to PSA will slow. If you are mad about that, you are a scumbag.

So is BS that the company said what they said? It was a meeting between AAG and our MeC.

Sorry if you don't like the color of the Kool aid now. Looks like we accepted a contract close to PSA and it will change for the best. So at the end you guys are growing but at least we have a better flow and a contract.

Air101 doesn't work for any AAG wholly owned carriers.

No one is freaking out. I'm making fun of you.

Haha oooookay. I'll be sure to pretend to be concerned that you are making fun of me kiddo. Quick, go google for an appropriate meme to show how witty you are to your internet foe.

I don't care how you take it. I laughed and that's the only thing I care about. I'd be happy to give you a ride in one of your former airplanes some day.

Class. Pure class.

Eh, he kinda deserved it. He's done nothing but slander other pilot groups.

Oh I see. You are at an airline that has been benefiting from our stand FOR the industry, and are now laughing and taunting in envoy threads at the first sign of something good for us? Stay classy kiddo. So PSA or TSA was it?

I'm saving this message. Karma is a b!tch and it will come knocking on your door soon. Very soon.

In the mean time, I hope we meet some day. I want to hear you say what you just said to my face. Bet you won't.

If you tell me that I'm a scab and actively taking your flying, then I would gladly say it. I had no part in anything that goes on in management. I just fly the airplanes they tell me to fly. If you have a problem with that, then you need to get a life.