Pilot Shortage (2015 OSU Summit)
03-20-2015, 08:51 AM
#11
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I would not be shocked if more schools shut down.
All these "career fairs" etc are efforts to drum up students
Generation Y and Z does not day dream about aviation. For the last 15 years, when in line to visit grandma, they have heard mom and dad complain about TSA, "flying is a hassle", no food on airline flights, etc. The experience has not been good.
Airshow attendance is at all time lows. Even hunting and fishing is at all time lows.
Generation Y and Z are more concerned with taking selfies and sending likes to their facebook friends
I predict more flight schools closed
All these "career fairs" etc are efforts to drum up students
Generation Y and Z does not day dream about aviation. For the last 15 years, when in line to visit grandma, they have heard mom and dad complain about TSA, "flying is a hassle", no food on airline flights, etc. The experience has not been good.
Airshow attendance is at all time lows. Even hunting and fishing is at all time lows.
Generation Y and Z are more concerned with taking selfies and sending likes to their facebook friends
I predict more flight schools closed
03-20-2015, 09:23 AM
#12
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Echoing the sentient stated superbly by a UPS Captain in response to the earlier Embry Riddle summit,....... it's disturbing to see institutions of higher education hosting "think-tank" symposiums to find new ways of allowing employers to hire graduates from their programs ,...... at a lower wage.
03-20-2015, 09:31 AM
#13
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Originally Posted by Flightcap
University of Illinois (Champaign) shut theirs down two and a half years ago.
As to this summit, it will be a perfect opportunity for regionals to defend their pay because they are "just a stepping stone to something bigger and all the pilots want to move onto majors! So it's just temporary!"
03-20-2015, 05:27 PM
#14
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You all should get a kick out of this....
Air India recruitment drive fails to draw any applicants for pilot jobs
Now that's India...but...I'd love to see it happen here!!
"Regional Airline Association Recruitment Drive Fails to Attract any Applicants."
and in a related story..."Major Airlines increase Hiring to Cover New Routes!"
Soon I think...
Air India recruitment drive fails to draw any applicants for pilot jobs
Now that's India...but...I'd love to see it happen here!!
"Regional Airline Association Recruitment Drive Fails to Attract any Applicants."
and in a related story..."Major Airlines increase Hiring to Cover New Routes!"
Soon I think...
03-20-2015, 08:34 PM
#15
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Honolulu Community College aviation program (Associates degree) is closing this semester. DA20 fleet ...A student told me it's because the graduation rate is too low, students finish elsewhere 4 year degree. Either way its a small fries school.
03-20-2015, 08:40 PM
#16
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Summit? Offer a 20k bonus for 4 years and surprise surprise, people show up to your airlines new hire class! Amazing that you can attract employees when you pay them higher than the average.
These summits are aren't trying to fix the pilot shortage. Just trying to figure out how to attract pilots without paying them anything.
These summits are aren't trying to fix the pilot shortage. Just trying to figure out how to attract pilots without paying them anything.
04-08-2015, 09:46 AM
#18
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Originally Posted by bozobigtop
The big name aviation schools don't depend on US students in the first place especially when foreign students are filling their bank accounts. Cha-ching!
BUT....What happens when these countries, particularly China, take back their flight training? China is making big moves in aviation at all levels. I would not be surprised to see them soon winding down flight training in the United States. It makes sense from a financial, and maybe more importantly national pride reasons for China to do so.
So my question is: Is the United States ready for the draw down of foreign flight training? We need to stop kicking the can down the road.
04-08-2015, 10:30 AM
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Originally Posted by block30
Yes absolutely.
BUT....What happens when these countries, particularly China, take back their flight training? China is making big moves in aviation at all levels. I would not be surprised to see them soon winding down flight training in the United States. It makes sense from a financial, and maybe more importantly national pride reasons for China to do so.
So my question is: Is the United States ready for the draw down of foreign flight training? We need to stop kicking the can down the road.
BUT....What happens when these countries, particularly China, take back their flight training? China is making big moves in aviation at all levels. I would not be surprised to see them soon winding down flight training in the United States. It makes sense from a financial, and maybe more importantly national pride reasons for China to do so.
So my question is: Is the United States ready for the draw down of foreign flight training? We need to stop kicking the can down the road.
04-08-2015, 10:38 AM
#20
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Originally Posted by Flightcap
University of Illinois (Champaign) shut theirs down two and a half years ago.
School is still operating, just switched flags from Illinois to Parkland (local JuCo).
Meh...UofI had been working for years to rid itself of such a blue collar blight on it's esteemed curricula. Treated like red headed step children when I attended.
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