it could be real good for colgan in the short term. Colgan needs more planes to take the new flying being thrown at them everyday. PCL has saabs that colgan can use NOW. Thats 10 more saabs that colgan can put to use quick. The thing that was holding colgan back was the cash. Now they have it. I agree with airsupport, I'd expect to see some bigger t-props in the future.
THere is 2 reasons why i see pcl did this. the first would be the more honest reason. Colgan is making money, and the have the niche t-prop cornered right now. Pcl holdings can make colgan more effecient and help them grow, which colgan couldnt do on it's own. They take the money that colgan is earning and spread it between the 2 companies to help both grow. That would be the honest thing to do. The second reason would be to whipsaw the pcl pilots at contract time. Both may happen. Neither may happen. Who knows! I never thought this would happen in the first place. I'd bet that colgan will be adding 5-10 planes or even more in the next 6 months. thats my 2 cents, but i'm already down a case of beer! |
Smells like MESABA and Big Sky.
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Originally Posted by XJPILOT1
(Post 104566)
Smells like MESABA and Big Sky.
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If it's Inc., you might be screwed. "INC." is the Airline.
"Corp" is the, well, corporation. Also, they are keeping them separate (for now), so they can do any flying they can get there hands on. |
That's why we need a combined union. To keep them from whipsawing the PCL contract by threatening to bid all new contracts through Colgan b/c our rules are worse and pay scales cheaper.
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Originally Posted by Airsupport
(Post 104679)
not really. the key here is that colgan has no jets,, so for them to get jets on the certificate would be a big deal. not saying it wont happen but i think colgan will get more props, and bigger props, and pncl will just get more jets. the difference is we have scope already saying any new flying must be done by pinnacle airlines pilots. we were smart enough to put in the last conctract that Pinnacle airlines pilots will do all present and future flying for Pinnacle INC. thats some pretty solid scope protection,,, now are they going to try and find a way around it... YOU BETCHA!!
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Originally Posted by reelbigchair
(Post 104804)
The TSA pilots built that exact phrase into their contract, and that didn't slow down management from creating GoJets. That little bit of scope cannot protect you.
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as far as the grievance thing goes, I filed 4 in the past 2 years on black and white contract issues that I should have clearly won. Guess what, I have not heard a g dam thing. These pigs will do whatever the hell they want and you know it.
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Originally Posted by STR8NLVL
(Post 104409)
$20M for 39 planes that sell for over a million each seems kind of lean to me. They must have some MASSIVE debt to be assumed, too.
Well, who's for signing a union card and getting the pilot groups together?! I'll be waiting for that union card in the mail!! |
Originally Posted by Brizzybrad
(Post 104821)
as far as the grievance thing goes, I filed 4 in the past 2 years on black and white contract issues that I should have clearly won. Guess what, I have not heard a g dam thing. These pigs will do whatever the hell they want and you know it.
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