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JimmyJr3 03-30-2015 04:46 AM

Since APA didn't cave in scope, I wouldn't be surprised to see an E190 presence there in the future,,..esp if AA/US buys some more of them.

MUCH stranger things have happened.

Rahlifer 03-30-2015 10:13 AM

I do remember PIT back in the late 90's, early 2000's. It was bustling with activity. Nowadays it's just an empty shell. I can't remember if it was Wolfe or Gangwal at the head of UsAir that gutted the place. They got their millions so it's all good I guess.

Avroman 03-30-2015 12:27 PM

PIT suffers from the same thing as CVG. It doesn't have a lot of O/D traffic, is very expensive relative to other options driving distance (think CAK or CLE with PIT; DAY or SDF with CVG) and is just too close to other hubs with better international presence (PHL, JFK, CLT for PIT; DTW, JFK, ATL for CVG.)

Slim11 03-30-2015 03:44 PM


Originally Posted by Avroman (Post 1852924)
PIT suffers from the same thing as CVG. It doesn't have a lot of O/D traffic, is very expensive relative to other options driving distance (think CAK or CLE with PIT; DAY or SDF with CVG) and is just too close to other hubs with better international presence (PHL, JFK, CLT for PIT; DTW, JFK, ATL for CVG.)

Even before the end of Comair, CVG was trying to get Southwest into the airport. But since Southwest serves CMH, DAY (via the AirTran acquisition), IND, LEX and SDF, all within roughly 100 miles of CVG, Southwest isn't there.

I remember DAY as a hub for the original Piedmont. Following the merger that formed USAir(ways?), the company tried operating DAY and PIT but found they couldn't do so. DAY was closed as a hub because it was so close to PIT.

When the new PIT was built, it was designed to be a hub airport. From that point of view, it is a great airport.

morerightrudder 03-30-2015 06:38 PM


Originally Posted by ZapBrannigan (Post 1852638)
Wish you guys could have seen it back in the mid-90s. Place was hopping. Rome, London, Paris... Tons of transcons, tons of commuters... Sad

Still a lot of commuters at PIT...to PHL and DCA. The early morning flights are basically crew shuttles.

prior121 03-30-2015 07:10 PM


Originally Posted by morerightrudder (Post 1853131)
Still a lot of commuters at PIT...to PHL and DCA. The early morning flights are basically crew shuttles.

Along with IAD and CLT. Just about every senior YV guy in IAD comes from PIT.

ZapBrannigan 03-31-2015 02:42 AM


Originally Posted by morerightrudder (Post 1853131)
Still a lot of commuters at PIT...to PHL and DCA. The early morning flights are basically crew shuttles.


No, I meant actual "commuters". The E gates (now a TSA parking lot) was filled over capacity with Dash 8s, Dornier 328s, Saabs, Jetstreams, Beech 1900s, and the occasional Shorts. Airplanes unrecognizable to this generation of pilots because they have spinny things on the front that make them go.

J Dawg 03-31-2015 03:13 AM


Originally Posted by flyingreasemnky (Post 1852069)
The only reason RAH has a domicile there is because they have some weird thing about crew domiciles being co-located with maintenance bases.

Not really..., Republic has a handful of flights at PIT as Delta Connection; and United Express; and US Airways Express; and American Eagle. Add them all up and it makes sense for Republic to have a base at PIT.



Originally Posted by FirstClass (Post 1852121)
I think the best anyone can hope for would be Southwest or Frontier wanting to make a larger presense but that's really about it.

Agreed on Southwest (Frontier doesn't even serve PIT). In fact, local rumors are about a major Southwest build up at PIT in 2016.

The US Airways dehubbing was 10 years ago and since then the local economy has stabilized around Eds/Meds, Financial and legal services, Robotics, and Energy. PIT will be just fine in the years ahead.

colonials13 03-31-2015 04:29 AM


Originally Posted by J Dawg (Post 1853259)
Agreed on Southwest (Frontier doesn't even serve PIT). In fact, local rumors are about a major Southwest build up at PIT in 2016.

The US Airways dehubbing was 10 years ago and since then the local economy has stabilized around Eds/Meds, Financial and legal services, Robotics, and Energy. PIT will be just fine in the years ahead.

Well fingers crossed!

morerightrudder 03-31-2015 10:28 PM


Originally Posted by ZapBrannigan (Post 1853257)
No, I meant actual "commuters". The E gates (now a TSA parking lot) was filled over capacity with Dash 8s, Dornier 328s, Saabs, Jetstreams, Beech 1900s, and the occasional Shorts. Airplanes unrecognizable to this generation of pilots because they have spinny things on the front that make them go.

I did get that, hence the ... in my reply. You missed my attempt at sarcasm there...


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