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J Dawg 04-04-2015 03:43 PM


Originally Posted by PerpetualFlyer (Post 1856026)
Yes, the majors do give two sh!t$ about mx bases. Just look at ANY regional airline. If there's a mx base, they will operate a majority of the flights there. STL for TSA, COS MKE TUS FAT and a few others for SkyWest, and the ones already mentioned for Republic. Are you that stupid to not see the connection?

Do you possibly think that the regionals made the obvious choice in many cases to locate mx and crew bases where they have a large number of flights, just like any other airline? For how many years has TSA and Skywest had a large operation in those cities you list?


Originally Posted by PerpetualFlyer (Post 1856026)
Are you that stupid to not see the connection?

I see you're a real class act.

sqwkvfr 04-04-2015 05:17 PM


Originally Posted by J Dawg (Post 1856058)
Do you possibly think that the regionals made the obvious choice in many cases to locate mx and crew bases where they have a large number of flights, just like any other airline? For how many years has TSA and Skywest had a large operation in those cities you list?



I see you're a real class act.

Do you possibly think that you could just admit that you shot your mouth off about something that you apparently know very little about?

J Dawg 04-04-2015 05:43 PM


Originally Posted by sqwkvfr (Post 1856095)
Do you possibly think that you could just admit that you shot your mouth off about something that you apparently know very little about?

With all the whipsawing and changes between major partners that the regionals have gone through over the past years, do you seriously believe the major airlines will plan their networks based on where regionals currently are? Why do you think bases open and close over the long run? Maybe you really do believe that. You probably wipe your @ss then take a dump too.

CBreezy 04-04-2015 06:07 PM


Originally Posted by J Dawg (Post 1856107)
With all the whipsawing and changes between major partners that the regionals have gone through over the past years, do you seriously believe the major airlines will plan their networks based on where regionals currently are? Why do you think bases open and close over the long run? Maybe you really do believe that. You probably wipe your @ss then take a dump too.

I'm sure the regionals can offer lower costs to certain cities based on operational need. Why is it that TSA/GJ have any continued presence in STL, RAH in PIT or PSA in DAY? If it is part of the agreement that the RFP cost is based on certain cities in the network, then the major is obligated to follow it. Yes, regional airlines are mostly at the whim of their major partners, but if you think they do it at risk of making no money or running an incredibly expensive operation with repos to maintenance outstations, then you are really have no idea what goes on behind closed doors.

Centra 04-04-2015 06:27 PM


Originally Posted by J Dawg (Post 1856107)
With all the whipsawing and changes between major partners that the regionals have gone through over the past years, do you seriously believe the major airlines will plan their networks based on where regionals currently are? Why do you think bases open and close over the long run? Maybe you really do believe that. You probably wipe your @ss then take a dump too.

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J Dawg 04-04-2015 06:41 PM


Originally Posted by CBreezy (Post 1856112)
I'm sure the regionals can offer lower costs to certain cities based on operational need. Why is it that TSA/GJ have any continued presence in STL, RAH in PIT or PSA in DAY? If it is part of the agreement that the RFP cost is based on certain cities in the network, then the major is obligated to follow it. Yes, regional airlines are mostly at the whim of their major partners, but if you think they do it at risk of making no money or running an incredibly expensive operation with repos to maintenance outstations, then you are really have no idea what goes on behind closed doors.

I don't disagree with what you are saying. My point was that the major will not include a city pair in its network just because it is a mx base for one of its regionals. Using PIT as an example, I notice Republic has a lot of ferry flights between PIT and CMH (9xxx flight numbers). Presumably to move aircraft to mx bases? I'm sure Republic would love for one of their major partners to operate CMH-PIT. But with those two cities both being non hubs and only a 3 hour drive, it makes no sense to operate flights, and in this example Republic having mx bases in both cities makes no difference to AA or DL or whoever.

sqwkvfr 04-04-2015 07:01 PM


Originally Posted by J Dawg (Post 1856107)
You probably wipe your @ss then take a dump too.

Just thought that I'd point out the irony with this:


Originally Posted by J Dawg (Post 1856058)
I see you're a real class act.

Anyway, yes, they do. They have contractual agreements with regionals to operate the originator and terminator flights into the regional's MX bases.

Anyway, just....stop. You're defending a position that you should have never taken and arguing with people who clearly know far more than you just for the sake of attempting to appear correct.

Stop.

CBreezy 04-04-2015 07:02 PM


Originally Posted by J Dawg (Post 1856126)
I don't disagree with what you are saying. My point was that the major will not include a city pair in its network just because it is a mx base for one of its regionals. Using PIT as an example, I notice Republic has a lot of ferry flights between PIT and CMH (9xxx flight numbers). Presumably to move aircraft to mx bases? I'm sure Republic would love for one of their major partners to operate CMH-PIT. But with those two cities both being non hubs and only a 3 hour drive, it makes no sense to operate flights, and in this example Republic having mx bases in both cities makes no difference to AA or DL or whoever.

TSA operates a hub and spoke out of PIT to BDL, RDU, and STL under the Eagle brand (formerly US)

J Dawg 04-04-2015 07:22 PM


Originally Posted by sqwkvfr (Post 1856132)

Anyway, yes, they do. They have contractual agreements with regionals to operate the originator and terminator flights into the regional's MX bases.

But the city pairs do not exist for that purpose! Its really not a difficult point :confused:

PerpetualFlyer 04-04-2015 08:44 PM


Originally Posted by J Dawg (Post 1856139)
But the city pairs do not exist for that purpose! Its really not a difficult point :confused:

We were never trying to make the point that a major would operate flights from a mx base to other random cities for a regional. Now you're just pulling things out of your a$$.


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