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BusDriverPNW 01-18-2007 08:32 AM

Colgan Air/Pinnacle AKA Go Jets/TSA
 
Any one else see a similar situation developing between pinnacle and colgan! I just dont see why else an RJ carrier would want to buy a turbo prop regional who is non unionised and known for low/poor pay.

Any thoughts

dingo222 01-18-2007 08:40 AM

dont even try to compare colgan pilots to gojet pilots. go jet pilots went to work for a new company KNOWING that they were hurting tsa pilots. Colgan pilots have no say in this, and neither do the PCL pilots. This is all skywest/asa. And look at the payscales, they aren't that far apart for flying 2 different types of planes and routes.

SharkyBN584 01-18-2007 09:17 AM

I would not compare Colgan pilots to BlowJet pilots at all. However, things could get interesting should PCL start moving RJ's over to Colgan. I'd be curious to see how the two pilot groups react. Somehow though I don't see a RJ flying from SYR to ROC...but stranger things have happened. I'm a firm believer that one company means one union with one contract and one seniority list (i.e. Shupublicqua). An ideal world would have PCL pull Colgan into their Union and on to their seniority list...but i can see both sides being kind of bitter about mergering seniority's. But considering this all got announced 20 minutes ago and I have nothing to do with either company...I'm pretty much just talking out of my @ss. Sorry to waste most of your time :D (I'm bored).

STR8NLVL 01-18-2007 09:58 AM


Originally Posted by SharkyBN584 (Post 104361)
I would not compare Colgan pilots to BlowJet pilots at all. However, things could get interesting should PCL start moving RJ's over to Colgan. I'd be curious to see how the two pilot groups react. Somehow though I don't see a RJ flying from SYR to ROC...but stranger things have happened. I'm a firm believer that one company means one union with one contract and one seniority list (i.e. Shupublicqua). An ideal world would have PCL pull Colgan into their Union and on to their seniority list...but i can see both sides being kind of bitter about mergering seniority's. But considering this all got announced 20 minutes ago and I have nothing to do with either company...I'm pretty much just talking out of my @ss. Sorry to waste most of your time :D (I'm bored).

AMEN! The most dissappointing thing to me about the announcement is that they don't plan on merging the seniority. I strongly feel if we're going to be owned by the same company, we need to have one seniority list, one union, one pay chart, etc, in order to avoid the ASA/Skywest Blojet/TSA play one against the other BS that is likely to otherwise happen.

So what's it take to get union cards to pass around at Colgan? ;)

Airsupport 01-18-2007 10:25 AM


Originally Posted by STR8NLVL (Post 104399)
AMEN! The most dissappointing thing to me about the announcement is that they don't plan on merging the seniority. I strongly feel if we're going to be owned by the same company, we need to have one seniority list, one union, one pay chart, etc, in order to avoid the ASA/Skywest Blojet/TSA play one against the other BS that is likely to otherwise happen.

So what's it take to get union cards to pass around at Colgan? ;)

THIS IS WAY DIFFERENT PEOPLE!!! like you said there is no comparason,, you guys need a union vote now! if you dont get one you will become our whipsaw!!

BusDriverPNW 01-18-2007 10:43 AM

Lets get a union vote going come on!!!

STR8NLVL 01-18-2007 10:59 AM


Originally Posted by Airsupport (Post 104426)
THIS IS WAY DIFFERENT PEOPLE!!! like you said there is no comparason,, you guys need a union vote now! if you dont get one you will become our whipsaw!!

I'm all for it! Seriously, if you have ALPA guys that want to get it going, send me a PM and we'll talk.

higney85 01-18-2007 02:33 PM

Colgan needs a union now! But pcl cant give em jets b/c they are owned by NWA... but pcl can give colgan the saabs.

CTPILOT 01-18-2007 03:37 PM

interesting to see what the domiciles will be if Colgan will keep the original or go DTW,MSP, MEM

Airsupport 01-18-2007 05:07 PM


Originally Posted by CTPILOT (Post 104608)
interesting to see what the domiciles will be if Colgan will keep the original or go DTW,MSP, MEM

as far as i know they cant. part of the agreement with nwa is we aren't allowed to fly into msp, dtw, or mem with another airline. now the tricky part will be if they consider colgan pinnacle, or still a totally seperate airline. but as of now we can not fly airplanes into msp, dtw, or mem for another airline


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