Pilot shortage-give your report
04-15-2015 | 09:07 PM
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Naaaha,
No signing bonuses or retention bonuses on the horizon is there?
Pilots are amazing, they complain no one is hiring, when the majors are hiring 1000 per year each, its those unqualified minorities and women taking up all the slots. Give a pilot a big bag of gold and he will complain about how heavy it is. Airline execs have crapped the bed, and the panic is becoming palpable.
No signing bonuses or retention bonuses on the horizon is there?
Pilots are amazing, they complain no one is hiring, when the majors are hiring 1000 per year each, its those unqualified minorities and women taking up all the slots. Give a pilot a big bag of gold and he will complain about how heavy it is. Airline execs have crapped the bed, and the panic is becoming palpable.
04-15-2015 | 09:26 PM
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I know some kid who failed 5 checkrides, literally busted bravo flying his family the DAY AFTER HIS PRIVATE CHECKRIDE, was arrested for MJ, and I know of at least one altitude deviation while he was a CFI and should be nowhere near any airplane, ever. He keeps texting me because somehow the guy made it to 1500 (BIC time anyone????) and he's choosing his company of choice out of 4 offers. Most of them with a cash bonus, this dood is a good guy (fun to party with) but is aviation inept and a complete danger to society. Meanwhile, half the places he has an offer for he'll see the left seat as soon as he hits 1000 121. Until you limit the bottom feeder scumbag operations ability to hire a disaster waiting to happen like this I'm not convinced things will ever change.
There's plenty more where he came from.
04-16-2015 | 10:34 AM
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And it works like a charm because all the riddle rat/ATP flight school/inept types are buying the BS by the truck full.
I know some kid who failed 5 checkrides, literally busted bravo flying his family the DAY AFTER HIS PRIVATE CHECKRIDE, was arrested for MJ, and I know of at least one altitude deviation while he was a CFI and should be nowhere near any airplane, ever. He keeps texting me because somehow the guy made it to 1500 (BIC time anyone????) and he's choosing his company of choice out of 4 offers. Most of them with a cash bonus, this dood is a good guy (fun to party with) but is aviation inept and a complete danger to society. Meanwhile, half the places he has an offer for he'll see the left seat as soon as he hits 1000 121. Until you limit the bottom feeder scumbag operations ability to hire a disaster waiting to happen like this I'm not convinced things will ever change.
There's plenty more where he came from.
I know some kid who failed 5 checkrides, literally busted bravo flying his family the DAY AFTER HIS PRIVATE CHECKRIDE, was arrested for MJ, and I know of at least one altitude deviation while he was a CFI and should be nowhere near any airplane, ever. He keeps texting me because somehow the guy made it to 1500 (BIC time anyone????) and he's choosing his company of choice out of 4 offers. Most of them with a cash bonus, this dood is a good guy (fun to party with) but is aviation inept and a complete danger to society. Meanwhile, half the places he has an offer for he'll see the left seat as soon as he hits 1000 121. Until you limit the bottom feeder scumbag operations ability to hire a disaster waiting to happen like this I'm not convinced things will ever change.
There's plenty more where he came from.
04-16-2015 | 10:58 AM
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There ARE tonnes of pilots with their ATP, both flying now and in training...they are flying for Lufthansa, Chinese airlines, and other Asian airlines. The numbers the FAA puts out include all foreign pilots.
Atlas hired quite a few last year, and their net gain was less than five. They tried to expand, but could not.
Salaries? I'd call going from $12K/month to $25K/month a big pay increase...it is happening in various parts of Asia, starting with China. They aren't paying more because of a surplus of pilots.
Guys leaving UAL during class, turning down class dates at the majors....that is a sign of the pilot shortage.
Atlas hired quite a few last year, and their net gain was less than five. They tried to expand, but could not.
Salaries? I'd call going from $12K/month to $25K/month a big pay increase...it is happening in various parts of Asia, starting with China. They aren't paying more because of a surplus of pilots.
Guys leaving UAL during class, turning down class dates at the majors....that is a sign of the pilot shortage.
04-16-2015 | 11:37 AM
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04-16-2015 | 12:02 PM
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Don't jump to conclusions. The only ridiculous argument is the current FO starting pay. People just can't afford to work for such low wages. Major airlines could stand to fork over a little more to keep the system running. They are able to supplement quite a bit from their expansive international system...as an example.
04-16-2015 | 02:21 PM
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It could be that his perspective is a little wider than yours.
04-16-2015 | 02:26 PM
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