I fail to see where you "spanked" me, but if providing Internet spankings helps you with your "compensation" issues, hey cool.

 

Exactly. People hear the word failure and relate that to crash or being unsafe. I really think they need to reevaluate the checkride process. I'm not advocating for lowering standards by any means, but maybe each maneuver or evaluating factor should be scored on a 1-10 and you actually receive a percentage grade. Scoring an 85% but having to do a retrain on something is certainly better than say somebody really mucking it up and scoring a 50% overall. The way it is now, there is no differentiation.
So rather than having to ask how many failures a pilot has, we could ask what's your overall checkride score? You could really differentiate a pilot's skill level. Is there really a difference between a guy or gal who averages a 95% but messed up a steep turn in their private checkride, compared to someone who averages a 90% with a clean record? I don't think so but the way the system is setup now, there's no way to compare pilots in that way.
The pass/fail system we have now does not equate to the pass/fail system in some college courses that the public is familiar with. I had a couple pass/fail classes in college and you had to try really hard to not pass the class, basically show up and you were all good. We all know approaching a checkride that way is a recipe for disaster.

 

What a joke this article and what it was presented. Kit is a joke to this environment, failures, no one is exempt of them. I do agree with some posts, 121 is different from GA or even military...kit , retire plez, don't try to help the causes !!!!! Pay pay pay

 

You're incoherent. Kit is an aviation consultant and not a pilot spokesman. The union hardliners are saying pay and a Republican congress sees it only as typical union maneuvering. If we want to fix the pilot shortage, it is more than just pay.

 

Okay if you say so CB

 

Sounds like a driving test, but on the serious side not enough objectivity with checkrides I do agree. No two or three captains will do it the same way, doesn't mean its not safe, by the book, or legal!

 

I always have to chuckle when people say "Other than a failed private, instrument, and commercial check ride and 2 DUIS, I have a spotless record!"

 

No, it really isn't.

Pay them, fairly and in-line with the responsibilities + demands of the job, and they WILL come.

 

Correct me if am wrong, but i thought and was always told by FAA/ DPE's and APD's that a failure is if you have a 709 / 609 ride cuz the applicant or certificate holder F*^k it up so bad that everything is in question... Thanks

 

Pinks slips are pretty much fix this twick that...