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05-21-2015, 10:19 AM
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Originally Posted by CBreezy
The reason the regionals were created was because too many people said "what about me."
They were created by greedy low-life corp. executives to whipsaw pilot groups into accepting lower salaries and benefits. Wake up.
05-21-2015, 10:21 AM
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Originally Posted by SayAlt
No sir.
They were created by greedy low-life corp. executives to whipsaw pilot groups into accepting lower salaries and benefits. Wake up.
They were created by greedy low-life corp. executives to whipsaw pilot groups into accepting lower salaries and benefits. Wake up.
05-21-2015, 10:22 AM
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Originally Posted by CBreezy
That's short-sighted. Again, we are talking about an aviation industry pilot shortage. Yes, now we are discussing shortcomings at the regional airline level, but if you just increase starting pay here, you'll vacuum up all the CFIs and box fliers.
The fact remains that there is an unprecedented retirement happening in the next two decades. The GA infrastructure is becoming non-existent. Flight training costs/college education tuition are skyrocketing. Outside of colleges, there is virtually no way to get financing and if you don't want to take out a loan, it'll take 4-6 years to get airline mins. Yes, an increase of pay at regional A will have no problem with filling seats but it is at the detriment of regional B.
It is more than just pay
The fact remains that there is an unprecedented retirement happening in the next two decades. The GA infrastructure is becoming non-existent. Flight training costs/college education tuition are skyrocketing. Outside of colleges, there is virtually no way to get financing and if you don't want to take out a loan, it'll take 4-6 years to get airline mins. Yes, an increase of pay at regional A will have no problem with filling seats but it is at the detriment of regional B.
It is more than just pay
The pilot compensation model especially at the regional level is broken, unlivable wages are not sustainable anymore in 2015. I mean guys are being paid the same amount that pilots were making in 1980!
05-21-2015, 10:27 AM
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Originally Posted by SayAlt
No sir.
They were created by greedy low-life corp. executives to whipsaw pilot groups into accepting lower salaries and benefits. Wake up.
They were created by greedy low-life corp. executives to whipsaw pilot groups into accepting lower salaries and benefits. Wake up.
05-21-2015, 10:32 AM
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Originally Posted by minimwage4
Actually it is. If you make this job desirable again, people will find a way to get that loan, go to college for it, or suffer through 1500 hours of flying around the pattern. If you've been in this industry long enough you know that things can change very quickly.
The pilot compensation model especially at the regional level is broken, unlivable wages are not sustainable anymore in 2015. I mean guys are being paid the same amount that pilots were making in 1980!
The pilot compensation model especially at the regional level is broken, unlivable wages are not sustainable anymore in 2015. I mean guys are being paid the same amount that pilots were making in 1980!
05-21-2015, 10:34 AM
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Originally Posted by SayAlt
Id like to apologize to everyone here. I didn't realize I was arguing with Doug Parker's lackey.
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