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Old 05-24-2015 | 06:20 AM
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East coast or West coast?

I have no care where at just the regional with a decent quality of life fast upgrade decent pay preferably cancelation pay
Old 05-24-2015 | 06:23 AM
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If you fly east coast, better find someone with cancellation pay. As far as who's turd is the shiniest, idk..
Old 05-24-2015 | 06:25 AM
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If you fly east coast, better find someone with cancellation pay. As far as who's turd is the shiniest, idk..
Can we all agree that you shouldn't ever go to a regional without cancelation pay in today's hiring environment?
Old 05-24-2015 | 06:38 AM
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Besides Republic, who else doesn't have cancellation pay?
Old 05-24-2015 | 06:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Bell0805
I have no care where at just the regional with a decent quality of life fast upgrade decent pay preferably cancelation pay

They are all equally bad. Some have slight advantages in one area, but lack in another. The answer as one person said was to pick one where you live in base within a reasonable distance of the base. It's like two different jobs the differences between commuting and living in domicile. The single biggest QOL issue is commuting, don't do it if you don't have to.

Fast upgrades? That can change in the blink of an eye. You can't upgrade in most cases without 1,000 121 time anyway, which while on reserve and a junior line holder means about 1.5 to 2.5 years depending how hard you work. So, picking a quick upgrade shop of today may not be the place to be in 2.5 years.

We're entering a period of low supply and high demand. Your skills will be desired at any number of regional outfits. What is your age, and your career goals? If it to get to a major in the shortest time; then you pick Piedmont or Envoy. Both will have the fastest flow program in the industry. If you want an upgrade 2 years from now, then again I'd say both PDT and ENY. Most other places with fast upgrades now are places getting new airplanes for growth. Once the growth stops or slows down so will the rapid upgrades. It will just be attrition. PDT and ENY will both have very quick flow to American Airlines and will have constant flow driven upgrades not reliant on growth. You can apply to Delta, United, Fedex and the others while knowing you have no interview flow to AA in your back pocket as a backup insurance policy. The flip side is that 2 years from now, the legacy carriers will be hiring so fast that just about ANY regional job will have a "fast upgrade." Back to the living in base advice again...


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Old 05-24-2015 | 06:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Cujo665
They are all equally bad. Some have slight advantages in one area, but lack in another. The answer as one person said was to pick one where you live in base within a reasonable distance of the base. It's like two different jobs the differences between commuting and living in domicile. The single biggest QOL issue is commuting, don't do it if you don't have to.

Fast upgrades? That can change in the blink of an eye. You can't upgrade in most cases without 1,000 121 time anyway, which while on reserve and a junior line holder means about 1.5 to 2.5 years depending how hard you work. So, picking a quick upgrade shop of today may not be the place to be in 2.5 years.

We're entering a period of low supply and high demand. Your skills will be desired at any number of regional outfits. What is your age, and your career goals? If it to get to a major in the shortest time; then you pick Piedmont or Envoy. Both will have the fastest flow program in the industry. If you want an upgrade 2 years from now, then again I'd say both PDT and ENY. Most other places with fast upgrades now are places getting new airplanes for growth. Once the growth stops or slows down so will the rapid upgrades. It will just be attrition. PDT and ENY will both have very quick flow to American Airlines and will have constant flow driven upgrades not reliant on growth. You can apply to Delta, United, Fedex and the others while knowing you have no interview flow to AA in your back pocket as a backup insurance policy. The flip side is that 2 years from now, the legacy carriers will be hiring so fast that just about ANY regional job will have a "fast upgrade." Back to the living in base advice again...


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I agree, when you add everything up, Envoy is probably the premier regional airline today for a lot of reasons.
Old 05-24-2015 | 06:54 AM
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"Premier" is never a word that should be used in describing a regional airline.

It's like arguing over the nicest trailer in the trailer park.
Old 05-24-2015 | 06:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Utah
"Premier" is never a word that should be used in describing a regional airline.

It's like arguing over the nicest trailer in the trailer park.
Well nobody can really offer what Envoy offers when you add up the flow, e175's, new commuting policy, etc.. Where would you say is better? You will be at AA in 5 years as a worst case scenario.
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Originally Posted by zondaracer
Besides Republic, who else doesn't have cancellation pay?
GoJet? Not sure if there's any others on the east coast.
Old 05-24-2015 | 08:52 AM
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