Delta TA
 

That moment when you realize the first year FO wage on the EMB 190/195 is higher than all regional carriers capt pay of 10+ years. $121.56 an hour #sighs #chugsmorebeer

The proposed rate is closer to $80. Still not bad when compared to regional captain rates, but it is a bigger airplane. Your $121.56 is for a 12 year FO, not first year. I don't think there will be many 12 year first officers bidding to the 190/195.

Do you have the tables? I was going off what i was seeing on the delta ta thread.

Yeah, they posted the 12 year rates since that is the relevant numbers for the majority of the group. Most of them no longer see longevity increases.

The real table would need 12 rows, comprised of year 1-12 longevity, for each airplane column and then another table for every yearly/DOS increase.

The current first year rate at Delta is $70 for all aircraft. It is not going to $120.

The FO rates at step 12

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Again, that is if you are on Year 12 longevity. Year 1 is $70 at Delta and $80 with the new TA. However, they are reducing the profit sharing in the TA, so the increase is not really $10 unless Delta makes a lot less profit than projected this year and the next. Part of the $80 is bought be giving back 10% of the profit sharing agreement out the the current 20% they get from $2.5 billion-$6 billion. The TA proposes profit sharing to go to 10% from $2.5 billion-$6 billion instead of the current 20%. Delta is projected to make over $6 billion this year and the next. Pushing $9 billion.

Nice thanks. Still incredible really. The disparity between regionals and majors is insane. Good for delta guys though.

Disparity is incredible, but the Delta pilots aren't really gaining much in this TA when you factor in the profit sharing givebacks and other efficiency givebacks.

The TA actually allows Delta to hire hundreds less, which means hundreds of less jobs for you and me to compete for. Which means longer time at the regionals and less pay over your life. Which might actually turn out as a paycut versus if they say no and keep their current contract and hiring plans.

Sounds like a majority is not for it. And they shouldnt be in this economy. Anything other than a industry leading contract at delta (with the current financial state) of that company is a loss imo. Theyre making money hand over fist.

What about scope? I do not mean number of seats the regionals fly, but the number of airframes per 50 seat, 70 seat, and 76 seat groups. Rumor had it Delta was going to ask for higher limits on regional aircraft than what is currently in C2012. More planes at regionals also slows the moves to take the flying back to mainline and would further delay us folks here at the regionals even though it would mean growth and upgrades for junior regional pilots. Any news on that part of the TA?