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TheGoldenJet

06-11-2015 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Riverside (Post 1901670)

Paging thegoldenjet. Paging thegoldenjet. You're needed in the psychiatric ward.

Huh? Please explain

pete2800

06-11-2015 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Slick111 (Post 1901767)

I think it's shameful that all of the responses to the original post, thus far, have been made in an effort to belittle and demean this guy for highlighting yet another dumb move on the part of regional pilots (and their union) and for attempting to get pilots to do what's best for the entire regional pilot group.

Everyone loses their minds when PSA, Piedmont, and envoy accepts a new deal, but when this guy takes a poke at something equally damaging to the pilot group,........ all he gets for his efforts are insults and snark.

What's wrong with you people?

I have no sympathy. By going to work for GoJet, this person did more damage to this industry than they can fix by convincing people to stop picking up open time. I have an idea for what we should try to convince GoJetters to do...

Quit.

web500sjc

06-11-2015 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by pete2800 (Post 1902036)

If you coerce them, its illegal :D

ComAirColonel

06-11-2015 05:05 PM

I wasn't trying to tell people not to pickup open time. I was trying to point out that GJ pilots are negotiating a new contract and they keep giving things to the company that allows the company to keep going without a new contract. First the bonus, now this little change. They are taking pennies and allowing the dollars to go away. Reminds me of how the Chirstmas turkey has replaced the Christmas bonus.

Same things are going on at Republic. The union allows the bonuses and the company can keep delaying the contract for all. Pilots have the leverage for the first time in 50 years and they are not using it.

This must have scared some since it brought out all the management people to attack me and misdirect the message.

Cgo John

06-11-2015 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by ComAirColonel (Post 1901539)

New hires get 10,000 extra. Current captains making, say 70/hr get a possible 2.5 hours x 12 months x 70 hours = $4200 if they were able to do that every month. Realistically, cut that in half and you end up with 2100 and gave them an extra 6 days of your year.

I thought this was a pretty good raise until I saw the math error. At 2.5 extra hours per month times 12 months times 70 per hour it only equals $2100 not $4200. So if you could only do this 6 months a year you would get only 1050. $4200 didn't sound bad but the 1050 extra for 6 days more of work is not worth it. Basically, for 1050, a pilot will be stuck with the current contract for an extra year or so.

I guess when you have adjusted to working for nothing you can be controlled with only a few extra dollars.

"I'm hungry as hell and I need the extra dollar today! The new contract will have to wait!"

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