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flyviper 07-18-2015 07:32 AM


Originally Posted by RegionalFO (Post 1932315)
Training can't handle the flow to go up quickly. All the ads are based on getting more people on property to increase flow numbers. There's no way 1 dash 8 sim and 1 e-145 sim can handle an airline to double in size in a year. People here for 7-8 years are still looking at over 2 years to flow.


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We using 2 dash sim atm.

RegionalFO 07-18-2015 07:37 AM

Oops forgot about that one. Still it's piedmont and anybody that works here knows that we are always way behind the curve.


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Lvlng4Spd 07-18-2015 07:56 AM


Originally Posted by flyviper (Post 1932326)
We using 2 dash sim atm.

We will also add 145 sims as needed. When they have had backlogs in the past they have had up to 3 dash sims running, including one out in SEA if I remember correctly. AAL was more than willing to give us $1 million in additional sim time in Toronto for the Dash recently to prevent delays. Why would they not finance additional units and/or locations to ramp up 145 training? I don't think you will see the PSA-style logjams, because we don't need to grow as quickly and that is OK.

flyviper 07-18-2015 08:18 AM


Originally Posted by RegionalFO (Post 1932331)
Oops forgot about that one. Still it's piedmont and anybody that works here knows that we are always way behind the curve.


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I totally understand where you coming from, it's been downsizing ever since I got here too...with that being said I also feel pretty good about my position here at pdt now. We finally have a hub base and potential career at aag.

Regarding behind the curve, it can be said for about 90% of the airlines.

billyho 07-18-2015 09:28 AM

Year and a half ago I wouldn't have told anyone to come to Piedmont. Now??? Honestly it's probably one of the best place to come right NOW.

AZFlyer 07-18-2015 10:44 AM

Fleet/Flow related question.

I'm applying in October with hopes for a January class date. My preference is ROA because it will be closest to where I will be living and drivable if need be. This implies being given/selecting the -8 fleet.

My question relates to the 1 year seat lock incurred when changing fleet and the timing of -8 retirements and how that could affect when a JAN2016 hire could possibly flow. If the writing is on the wall that a pilot will be forced off the -8 as the fleet retires but he or she also sees the light at the end of the tunnel for a flow date, I'm wondering if it would be wise for a pilot in this scenario to bid the jet earlier on and avoid being locked past when you could have flowed up to AA?

I'm guessing the -8s will be gone or nearly gone before this would be a realistic concern for me. Just curious what others think.

Cujo665 07-18-2015 11:15 AM


Originally Posted by billyho (Post 1932402)
Year and a half ago I wouldn't have told anyone to come to Piedmont. Now??? Honestly it's probably one of the best place to come right NOW.

Probably a very true statement.

The same could have been said about PSA pre August 2013, compared to the past year.

Remember that when you talk about envoy in the coming months. If they fix the QOL issues - which are currently being negotiated - the rest will likely fall into place pretty much as their plan has done at the other two WO's.

twighead 07-18-2015 01:20 PM


Originally Posted by AZFlyer (Post 1932449)
Fleet/Flow related question.

I'm applying in October with hopes for a January class date. My preference is ROA because it will be closest to where I will be living and drivable if need be. This implies being given/selecting the -8 fleet.

My question relates to the 1 year seat lock incurred when changing fleet and the timing of -8 retirements and how that could affect when a JAN2016 hire could possibly flow. If the writing is on the wall that a pilot will be forced off the -8 as the fleet retires but he or she also sees the light at the end of the tunnel for a flow date, I'm wondering if it would be wise for a pilot in this scenario to bid the jet earlier on and avoid being locked past when you could have flowed up to AA?

I'm guessing the -8s will be gone or nearly gone before this would be a realistic concern for me. Just curious what others think.

There is no lock if you are displaced. The flow lockout is only if you voluntarily upgrade or bid into a different aircraft.

AZFlyer 07-18-2015 01:33 PM

Good to know. Thanks.


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