Groovinaviator is right.

At AWAC if you arrive ready to work hard, try to fit in and have some basic skills you will be just fine.

My entire class made it through (except one idiot who sort of did but then threw a huge temper tantrum during his final sim check.)

But the class of 19 washouts was also exceptional. A bit too much partying and ho-made porn going on in that class. They are prolly at Skywest now!! :D

1. You need a good attitude to be an instructor or a likeable instructor anyways. Another reason why regionals like flight instructors.

2. If you're partying during training, you have some serious mental problems.

3. If you cannot fly an SE ILS AP down to mins, you shouldn't be a flight instructor, period.

All good points Groovinaviator.

One of my best friends was in that notorious class, they actually only had like 5 washout. 3 during ground school, (1 had lied about working at regions, thought it would "look good" on his resume, 2 others for the infamous 3 some pics.) 1 during OE, as they were type guys with 250hrs that couldn't talk on the radio. The other did not make it thought sim training. They actually told him to come back when he got some more time. Of that 21, I think there are only 5-6 left, the others were asked to leave once online, just could not cut it. My class had 1 washout (and YES he is at skywest now) and another guy leave as he was having a hard time in the sim.

Didn't they rent a pontoon boat and try and flip it? We were also told something about hotel room furniture ending up in the pool and even the sheriff being called (on more than one occasion).

What happens at the Appleton LaQuinta (formerly Bugetel) stays at the LaQuinta!

If that were the truth, John, Mike, Scott and Bob would not have found out about it and fired their asses!! :D

Still makes for good stories and those guys are probably better off now by not having to fly on the east coast.

Yeah they had gotten the boot from the bugetel b/c of the Oshkosh rally, and got put in some small town hotel, rented a pontoon, and tried to sink it. The only reason the cops stopped them was b/c of the drinking on board. The furniture did get thrown into the pool, but it was all plastic stuff and no damage was done. I have not heard about the sheriff being called, but MAN does my buddy have some good stories about ATW and that class!

I suppose you could get weeded out for "soft factors" like attitude or oversleeping every morning, but FO's on IOE usually have zero pax interaction.

Usually people (new to 121) fail IOE for visual approaches or descent planning. A check airman buddy of my mine at mesa told me about a young lady who had to be prompted to descend every time (after being given PD)...he told her on the last day that she was going to have to plan and execute the descents and that he was going to say nothing. Well, they arrive over the destination airport (BFL ?) at F290 :eek:

On the visuals, all the automation tends to get people...it works great when vectored 10 miles outside the marker on a real approach, but on a short dumped-on-the-marker visual you need to turn the AP off, get slow, get dirty, then descend and turn as needed. People new to jets tend to be afraid to arrest their descent to slow down so they can configure...if you don't get configure first, you simply can't go down and slow down.

Homemade porn? were they women? At SKW you say...do you know how I can get in touch with them? :D

No they were not women unfortunately, it was 2 guys and a REALLY nasty chick they picked up, and they are not at skywest......

WHAT?! You ABSOLUTELY have to do some partying during training, if you don't, you will stress yourself out and and that makes training WAAYYY harder! They key is figuring out when to do the partying, obviously getting smashed the night before a test or a PC is not good, but weekends are another story....