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TurbineTime 08-28-2015 12:16 PM


Originally Posted by Skyvector (Post 1958902)
I don't answer to you, "turbintime". I know you are dying to vote in your super saver LBFO, so it's no surprise your panties are in a bunch right now.

This will play out as planned, and you will look like an even bigger idiot. Once the aircraft start to be taken by AA you will have nothing to say.

But watching your had explode by ever greater degrees is absolutely hilarious. Now you think that me and other people owe you answers. That's rich. If you don't believe that AA has a clause to take your precious aircraft, that's your problem. If you don't believe that the Bank of Brazil and BNDES loaned Republic the money with AA as a co-signer, that's your problem.

This will play out on schedule. If Republic can't staff their AA flying-as it's becoming apparent-AA takes those aircraft. Where they go from there is anybody's guess. But go ahead and slip further into denial mode and pound away on your keyboard like a sexually frustrated 15 year old. I suggest you direct your anger at Bryan Bedford rather than support his unethical business practices.

So once again, you fail to back up anything you say. All you can do at this point is deflect questions that you know you dont have the answers to. Just another sad pilot who keeps repeating what he wants to happen, hoping that if he says it enough times it will come true. Nothing you have said is becoming apparent to anyone but you, you're a fraud, a liar, and a grandstander. Keep throwing insults to deflect those questions you can't answer, it only makes you look worse.

Day4mx 08-28-2015 12:21 PM

We need a "wheels falling off the wheels falling off rah" thread

trent890 08-28-2015 10:44 PM


Originally Posted by CRJail (Post 1957552)
Also important to remember that mainline can't just take the airplanes back. These planes are owned by RAH

We're not talking about the birds in the N200NN - N211NN tail number range here, are we? Are those the Envoy large Embraers, or are they the ones flown by YX?

tunes 08-28-2015 11:31 PM


Originally Posted by trent890 (Post 1959330)
We're not talking about the birds in the N200NN - N211NN tail number range here, are we? Are those the Envoy large Embraers, or are they the ones flown by YX?


Those are compass


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Loon 08-29-2015 07:10 PM

The rumor is hoffa is to overturn jcii et al (i.e.357)

Geardownflaps30 08-30-2015 03:17 AM


Originally Posted by Loon (Post 1959986)
The rumor is hoffa is to overturn jcii et al (i.e.357)

Haven't heard that rumor at all.

You're just making stuff up.

Rahlifer 08-30-2015 06:20 AM


Originally Posted by Geardownflaps30 (Post 1960092)
Haven't heard that rumor at all.

You're just making stuff up.

This rumor was actually just confirmed by one of my flight attendants hairdresser.

FlameNSky 08-30-2015 10:31 AM


Originally Posted by Slick111 (Post 1957232)
They will also be able to renegotiate higher-paying CPA's with Delta, AA, and United putting themselves in a much stronger financial position going forward.

The Major 3 can choose not to accept the higher paying CPA. Both Delta and United have already begun instituting plans to deal with diminishing regional feeds. For example: United has made plans for additional 777s, 737s and 320s to take over the regional routes (of course at a reduced frequency) I believe UA announced that they will have an additional 105 daily departures by next year to cover a reduction of 580 daily regional departures. AA is the only one that I have not seen to be preparing for this eventuality. In true AAG fashion, they will follow the market leaders and institute similar strategies in the near future. With the preexisting E190s fleet at LUS/AA, they will likely be able to transition future or existing E175 aircraft or orders over to the mainline operation quickly should they need to.

In any case, IMO, I do not see the Big 3 agreeing to significant increases in their CPAs. While not wishing misfortune on the RAH pilots, I think ALL regional pilots can agree that it is in our collective best interests to see the major airlines choose to add more mainline airframes to their fleets over paying higher prices for "regional" lift.

FEtoFO 08-30-2015 12:06 PM


Originally Posted by Loon (Post 1959986)
The rumor is hoffa is to overturn jcii et al (i.e.357)

Why would Hoffa do that? Maybe he wants to get decertified?

Geardownflaps30 08-30-2015 12:55 PM


Originally Posted by Rahlifer (Post 1960165)
This rumor was actually just confirmed by one of my flight attendants hairdresser.

Oh gawd! It's true then!

jdflyer1999 08-30-2015 03:13 PM


Originally Posted by TurbineTime (Post 1958409)
So let me get this straight... You are a regional airline pilot at envoy, but have sources inside RAH, AAG and the Brazilian Bank? And you have insider knowledge of the imminent bankruptcy at RAH?? And you also know details of contracts to purchase aircraft at an airline you do not work for? Im sorry but I just can't believe that. Especially considering you are a known envoy cheerleader and the "facts" you claim to know would only benefit envoy. Sorry but unless you can prove what you say with actual facts, your story doesn't add up.

He's correct. BNDES wasn't going to loan RJet the funds without a guarantee. The flying that AMR gave to RJET was part of the guarantee along with (my understanding) a promise to pay if RJET defaulted. In the document it was also disclosed that AMR could take those aircraft and redeploy them elsewhere if RJET didn't meet certain performance criteria.

This was documented in the bankruptcy by APA, I forget exactly why. I believe it's in this document from the SEC, but I'm unable to download it on my iPad.

fundingagreementredacted

My personal opinion is that as long as RJET continues to operate (and I personally hope and believe you will), they will continue to fly the 175 for AAG. The rumor at Envoy is that AAG might redeploy 3-5 175s next summer while until RJET is able to operate its full schedule again.

Extending from that is the 175 options for RJET where not executed, but those delivery slots will be converted to Envoys to accelerate there fleet reorganization plan.

jdflyer1999 08-30-2015 03:21 PM


Originally Posted by pilotwithnoname (Post 1958198)
It was never YOUR flying. It was mainline. The whole "regional" model is based on mainline flying. Don't forget that.

This bickering over whose flying/airplanes go to who... Sheesh.

Mine, and I think the majority of the pilot group at ENY that were here when it happened, is that it sucked to lose flying to you. However it was a management decision and not the result of pilot shenanigans.

The only part that really stung was seeing our name on the side of your airplane.

BTW you have towed the line better than most of the regionals out there. My hat and respect is off to you all.

pilotwithnoname 08-30-2015 03:33 PM


Originally Posted by jdflyer1999 (Post 1960510)
Mine, and I think the majority of the pilot group at ENY that were here when it happened, is that it sucked to lose flying to you. However it was a management decision and not the result of pilot shenanigans.

The only part that really stung was seeing our name on the side of your airplane.

BTW you have towed the line better than most of the regionals out there. My hat and respect is off to you all.

I totally get that. And I'm glad to see that you understand that its certainly not a pilot decision. We don't vote on it or control it, so why stress over it. With the way these airlines operate you'll probably get it and lose it 5 times in the next 10 years, and so will RAH.

Personally I hope we lose it all for good to the majors...


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