Vote will not happen for RAH LBFO
 

I just posted this in another thread, but I feel it deserves its own.

As per a union email from our Executve Board about a minute ago, the LBFO will NOT be sent out to the pilots for a vote. The only way it will be sent to a vote is if the IBT General President overrides this decision. Yet another salvo has been fired. What will BB and company do next? Should be an interesting end of the week. I'll save firstclass and others the effort and say the word bankruptcy, but I don't believe it's the case. Enjoy the show everyone...

Best of luck to all who are trying to get out and to those who choose to weather the storm.

I'd guess that bankruptcy would be a nail in BB's coffin. The company has the assets and the potential to grow and he is solely responsible for spending the last decade treating pilots like indentured servants.

The Eboard made the right call, the pilots of Republic hold the cards. The contract they have currently can't get worse unless the pilots decide to vote in worse. 40 bucks isn't worth a contract written by company lawyers intent on vague, easily manipulated wording, and on top of that have the carrots taken away in bankruptcy court a few months later.

What would happen to the pilots if RAH files for Chapter 11? Will they be forced to keep the current contract or will the proposed one be forced upon them? Or is it realistic to say that the pilot group will eventually disintegrate and they will mostly be looking elsewhere for job opportunities? It seems all but inevitable that RAH will file for bankruptcy protection in light of this impasse for both parties involved.

RAH provides WAY to much lift to "disintegrate". They will still be there - and so will all the pilots. Just a leaner company. Maybe the 145s will be shed will be my guess. That gets them out of recurring idle aircraft costs. Also buys time by moving 145 pilots to the 170/5.

Good luck RAH. I believe your Executive Board made the right call.

Finally, were waking up!

I fully support the NC and Eboard in their decision to not send it out to a vote. I'm not kidding myself though, that decision is going to end up being very very painful for myself and many other pilots and employees at RAH. The next 6 months will not be fun at all.

According to the CFO, "You're going to be in a world of hurt."

What would you call the last 8.5 years? I think the tables are finally turning in favor of labor...we shall see.


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"Smokey my friend, you are entering a world of pain". "Mark it zero".

"Donny, you're out of your element."

One thing to keep in mind. This is not the concessionary environment of the past as it was for Endeavor. If The Reverend and his cronies make this painful, people will continue to avoid the place which will accelerate the death spiral.

Bedford has to come up with a labor agreement that will attract employees and pilots will accept. The next stage of this shortage will be regionals trying to pillage each others pilots. If you make your pilots miserable, they will have plenty of opportunities to go elsewhere.

Side point: Bankruptcy would allow RAH to void *ALL* of their contracts, (not just its pilot contract). They will also be able to renegotiate higher-paying CPA's with Delta, AA, and United putting themselves in a much stronger financial position going forward.

File a sham bankruptcy, let the courts impose lower costs and higher revenues, and Rev. Bedford gets an even LARGER mansion!

GOD BLESS!!!!

And why do you assume UA, AA, and DL will be willing to pay more?

Now we are into the root of the problem - the Big 3s obsession with low pilot costs and cheap cheap feed.

The bottom line is Bedford overplayed his hand, the pilots called the bluff.

I couldn't agree with you more! Everyone blames the regionals, but fail to see why they're pushed to operate at such low costs and minimal profit margins. It's everyone's fault, not just one group. Especially with all of the "fines" for not operating within the performance numbers of their contract, it makes it even harder to do well.

I'm thinking they would just go someplace else. American could find cheaper feed with their WOs.

Now if only the people jumping ship from RAH wouldn't go to the places like PSA, PDT and Mesa...this would help out the industry even more. Let them rot with their 10 year garbage contracts while better paying regionals will attract the pilots which would equal more aircraft and quicker upgrades in the long run.

Not quite. They still have to go to a judge and show that they need contract relief to ensure the company is able to survive. 1113c is what it is called I believe.

Just ask any envoy pilot how well their first 2 NO votes went for them.


Good Luck!

You hadnt been fired at that time, had you? You were still 'ridding this puppy into the ground' then, no?

Oh wait, I forgot - you don't answer my questions. Either way...

We believe you!

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Bedford thinks he's an innovator. He'd secretly like to be known as a new frank Lorenzo. In reality he's nothing more than a class c screwup. He's fouled up every airline he's ever worked at. If I were on the board there he would be the first one fired.

There should be a petition that states Bedford needs to step down as a condition to negotiate in good faith.

What was the reason given for not presenting it to the pilot group, if any?

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Yes but it would look much better if he was fired instead of just let crawl away back under the rock he came from.

I just looked at the stock and its down 35% today.

I wanna know when it'll be a good time to buy. It's gonna go back up yah?

It wasn't negotiated through the actual negotiating process... No union imput... Just thrown out there. Proboly concived on a napkin durring church...

Hmmm... I wonder who would benefit from a ready-made regional operator with lotsa pilots and shiny E-Jets ?

It's important to remember that this was the really a LBFO. It was management's reaction to the dive RAH stock took in the last few weeks.

Welcome to "panic mode"

Also important to remember that mainline can't just take the airplanes back. These planes are owned by RAH

Yes and this backfired for Endeavor as the judge said "no way" to management's proposal.

In the end, a scare tactic worked at 9E but not forced by a judge.

envoy pilots salivating over this.

Good Luck!

Yeah, but mainline can buy the planes from RAH or the leasing company.

Don't forget they mailed harcopy pamphlets to every pilot's house. Those pamphlets included erroneous pay rates, higher than the actual offer.

Further, this offer reduces credit value for MIL members pre-awarding mil leave to a value less than Union leave, jury duty, company business, pdo, recurrent training and all reserve types. A change that is concessionary and possibly illegal under USERRA. Thanks for your service. Since you like the reserves so much, here's some RSV for your schedule.

-God Bless

Every member of the Teamsters Airline Division should pay close attention to what Republic's Management is trying to do to the Republic pilot group. Management is attempting to circumvent the bargaining process, and directly send a “contract” to the pilot group for a vote. They are twisting the language of Article XII, Section 1 of the IBT Constitution in order to do this.

Article XII
STRIKES, LOCKOUTS, WAGE SCALES, DISPUTES OVER JURISDICTION
Strike Action by Local Unions
Section 1(a). When any difficulty or dispute arises between the members of any Local Union and their employers, it shall be the duty of the officers of such Local Union to use every possible means of achieving a settlement or resolution of the difficulty or dispute through the processes of collective bargaining.
(b). Agreements shall either be accepted by a majority vote of those members involved in negotiations and voting, or a majority of such members shall direct further negotiations before a final vote on the employer's offer is taken, as directed by the Local Union Executive Board. During negotiations, the Local Union Executive Board may order a secret ballot strike vote to be taken and when, in the judgment of the Local Union Executive Board, an employer has made a final offer of settlement, such offer must be submitted to the involved membership for a secret ballot vote as hereinafter provided;
(1) If at least one half of the members eligible to vote cast valid ballots, then a cumulative majority of those voting in favor of the final offer shall result in acceptance of such offer; and a cumulative majority of those voting against acceptance of the final offer shall authorize a strike without any additional vote being necessary for such strike authorization. In the event of a tie vote on either a motion to accept a final offer or to strike, the Local Union Executive Board shall conduct a second vote. If the result of the second vote is a tie, the Local Union Executive Board shall have the discretion to either accept the final offer or reject the final offer and authorize a strike at such time as it determines.


The company is ignoring various parts of this section. The Local Executive Board did not decide this was a “final offer of settlement,” nor is the company willing to except a strike as the result of a “cumulative majority of those voting against acceptance.” This section of the IBT constitution was not intended for those members who fall under the jurisdiction of the RLA. The company is trying to use only the first half of this paragraph to force a vote.

If Republic management is successful in circumventing the Local’s Executive Board and Negotiating Committee this will set a disastrous precedent for all Airline Division IBT members. What will happen to the negotiating process currently underway at Allegiant or GoJets or any other pilot group? All members need to pay close attention to this and voice their concerns with the IBT Airline Division.


Call 202-624-6848 or 800-635-3961 and let the ALD know how important it is to not let management circumvent the process.

Great job 357! Keep up the fight!

Great point. RAH is a publicly traded company and management needs to be accountable. How is the board not even considering the idea of replacing management and the CEO in light of this bad situation? People usually come back and make a joke about CEO Bedford, but I say this in all seriousness.

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this!!!!!!!

Because the Chairman of the Board isn't ready to stick a fork in himself. The golden parachute doesn't provide much lift when your 400,000 shares lost 80% of their value in the last few weeks.

The airframes that fly out of ORD for AA. Does AA own those or RAH? Thanks. Just curious. Good luck you guys. Hope it turns out okay.

They are owned by RAH.