Republic Airlines opinion?
 

I just interviewed with Republic at AirInc. They want 1500tt with 300me. They said they wanted to keep in touch with me over the next few months as I build more time. They seemed very interested and I have no skeletons or past bs in my record. The hours were the only thing. I want to fly the EMB-170 and I like what I heard at the seminar today. Any opinions or current pilots who'd be willing to pm me and start a conversation. I'd appreciate any help.

Thanks in advance. Swim.

Good to hear you want to join the team. Only thing I can caution you is that there is no way to guarentee you will get the 170. You could end up on the 145 or the CRJ.

Why? Unless you live in a RW or S5 domicile, there's no incentive to...the 135 to the 190 at RAH pays the same in the right seat.

190? How about 170's

I think what he is reffering to is the payscale that RAH has in place for the E-190.

Yeah the FO payscale at RAH is the same across the board. So any aircraft is suitable. The best thing to do when get the letter of being accepted before being offered a class is to decide which certificate offers the best base for you and hope for that certificate class.

Some have denied classes to try to get the one they want. I would say don't say no more than once.

I left colgan air to come here just before upgrade and I love it here...love it...QOL is everything

I never mentioned the payscale, I just think the 170 is a cool little airplane. I just wanted to know about QOL, co-workers, management, etc...

You are choosing a company because you think the plane is "a Cool Little Airplane"?:rolleyes:

all i can say is WOW. Your priority should be PAY, QOL, Bases.

SAD:mad:

Who are YOU to say what other people's priorities SHOULD be?!?!?!:rolleyes:

Just love some of the opinions of these guys on here. all they do is judge others. I just think the plane was great to fly in the other day and it just happens to be a perk of Republic's fleet. I really feel sorry for a lot of you guys that your prima donna life sucks so bad. Seriously, I feel sorry for you.

Re-read the part you quoted. He mentions QOL right in there. Besides, to each his own. Just because you and I want to prioritize Pay, QOL, and Bases doesn't mean someone else has to. Leave the guy alone!

Your right, maybe it was the comment about not really wanting to know about the pay scales because they fly a "Cool little airplane" To each their own but that mentality is a huge problem in OUR industry. Why not fly for free, I mean it really is a "Cool little airplane". To each their own but thats my opinion.

When i applied for my job i applied for QOL, Pay, Base, and the company. Not because of the Airplane. I would fly a Cessna for the rest of my career if i was paid enough. Airplanes are Airplanes

I'm all for pilots getting paid as much as possible. I'm all against commercial pilots working for free or less than what the job is worth. I do have a problem with flying an airplane for free because it is a cool little airplane. I am not, however, against someone working for the pay that the unions have negotiated for XYZ company before this person even applied, so that this someone can fly what they believe is a cool little airplane.

but if the QOL, bases and pay were the same, you would probably go for the nicest plane, would you?

You see you are almost making the point for me. The Pay is almost the same and thats the problem. The 170 is bigger than the 145 and should provide bigger pay which it doesnt. When people want to fly the COOLEST airplane then mgmt can pay less money because there is someone out there who wants to fly the Cool Little Airplane.

Thats my point.

QOL is nice at RAH. Bases are mostly in the Northeast and Midwest, but there are a few further south. Contract is not too shabby although there's a lil' more gray area than most would like to see. The FO pay is a sore spot, but it's certainly not the lowest out there. Most of the people that complain about RAH...don't work here.

P.S. - Stay away from the 170. Longer reserve, fewer bases, same pay. The 145 is the sweetest gig out there.

This really is ridiculous. You guys know little about my reason for flying. I just thought, hey, if I'm at a regional might as well get a plane I like flying. The pay will come eventually. I've already been at the bottom of this life's barrel so why not dream a little. I could care less about the pay. There are so many jobs out there that suck and pay worse than being a pilot, get real with yourselves. This is such a ridiculous, juvenile argument, who cares what I think. This website has proven some things to me. Good bye.

Good Luck with that and ENJOY!! I personally don't care what you do with your career. However when you say things like that show that you are part of the problem. You will some day concern yourself with pay! Like i said good luck and I hope this website does prove $omething to you.

To each their own:cool:

Well, superpilot, what the heck else have you done in your life? Seriously? This thing you call a life is not about pay, its about helping others and yourself to be better than you ever thought possible. You'll realize this on your deathbed if you're unfortunate. I hope you see the light before that. I hope you know that you are forgiven for these rants. You're better than this.

I got your back swimbody. I understand what you are trying to say.

It's not a prima donna thing. It's the FACT that the 170 should be on mainline property. It's not! and everyday that passes is an injustice to all pilots aspiring to get on mainline soil.

Sad:( that is the epitime of our up and coming pilots. sad......and goodbye dumba$$

It's no better than you ripping on those pilots who decide to stay at regionals based on their own personal decisions (family, live in domicile, seniority). What did you call them? "Losers" and "underachievers."

In my book, you rank as low as that guy who said 'dont care about pay.'

You must be one of them. have a complex do we?:)

Me? Have a complex?

I'm not the one running around calling pilots "losers" or "underachievers" based on their decision to stay at any given airline.

Look at every pilot on this forum, and I'm sure they will agree that you are the one with a complex.

Yours is a "I'm God's gift to aviation" complex. You got hired for 1. knowing someone at UPS and 2. being a 'favorable' gender (those WERE YOUR WORDS in another thread).

Stop giving Hotgrandma the time. She does this every week.

My job isn't my life. My family is my life. My wife and son whom rely on me and my job to support. I do this job because i enjoy it and its a good job but i wouldn't do it for free. People Like you are the ones who help keep the pay low. There is always some numbnuts who doesnt care how much it pays as long as i get to FLY. Gimme a break. This isn't flight school anymore boss. Well maybe for you I don't know. You can sit here and pretend its ok to say that you "Could Care Less about the pay" What are you 19 years old, mommy and daddy still footing the bill. This is a career and a job. Most people don't work for FREE and most people DO care about the pay. I hope you see the light before you grow up and educate yourself on the meaning of work=pay. Someday when you have real responsibilities you hopefully will understand.

This isn't an attempt to be mean its an attempt to show you my point of view. Take it how you want. Like i said before i don't care if you work for free the rest of your life and never make a dime. Look at the bright side, just before you starve to death you might realize maybe i should have been compensated so i wouldn't be dieing!! IRONIC I hope you don't have a family that relies on you:eek: !!


WHATEVA!!

You are making ~$4/hr more than this guy at second year pay. Even assuming 100 hours of credit, that's only $400/month pretax more. After tax/retirement around $250. Congrats, you just raised the bar!!!

(meanwhile your RJ's are flying 1500 nm stage lengths)

The XJT'ers on here need to get over themselves. We are all flying for crap wages on equipment that should be paying double what we are making. But we're not. We're all eating the same crap sandwiches, some just come with extra mayo.

Yes, I pontificate every week because of my beliefs. Maybe, if everyone thought like me, someday guys like you won't have to sit in the right seat of an EMB jet at mcdonalds wages for your entire career.

OMG LOL!

I BET YOU ONE HUNDRED BUCKS that you NEVER EVER said that to ANY Eagle Captain you flew with during your tenure there!

Eagle, more than any other regional airline, has the most career captains.

McDonald wages?

Yes, you worked for McDonald wages too. You worked for Eagle, on the Saab, which besides first year pay, it pays even LOWER than the RJs.

So don't bullsh*t other pilots on what they decide to do career wise.

A 12th year RJ Captain has very high seniority (exception of Eagle in which case you're probably in the middle).

This Captain can rake in close to $100k, and has every single holiday and weekend off (granted, will have to bid reserve occasionally to avoid working a holiday).

But you can imagine... go to work Monday morning, if it's a 3 day trip, back by Wednesday night. 4 day trip, back by Thursday night. Either way, Fri-Sunday always off.

Living in base, and very comfortable with the seniority and even pay... these are the reasons that some RJ captains decide to stay with a regional.


Not everyone wants to fly on the back side of the clock based out of some crappy place like SDF or even worse, ANC (one b*tch of a commute I could imagine)!

Not everyone wants to give up their pay, seniority, and weekends off, to start at $34 /hr at the bottom of the reserve list at UPS.



In fact, my attitude is that when it comes to joining a regional, EVERY PILOT SHOULD JOIN THAT REGIONAL WITH THE ATTITUDE THAT THEY MIGHT END THEIR CAREER AT THAT REGIONAL

Why?

Simple! Because then, you have a HUGE VENTED INTEREST in ensuring the company secures a good pilot CBA. So, you won't have an attitude of a "Well I'm just here to get my time, and then screw this place, I'm outta here!"

... which I bet was your attitude during Eagle.

Eagle is the exception for "regionals". A capt who stays there is not necessarily stupid. AMR has(or will have) a flow through program(unlike USAIR and DAL). And eagle will be around as long as AMR is. If one decides to stay at beagle, they are not making the wrong choice. If one, however, decides to stay at a contract airline(e.g. pinnacle) for their career....well you know where I stand.

You claim to have worked at Eagle, and you are touting a EGL/AA flowthrough?!?!?!

ya, I did work there(which is why I claim I did) and yes they did indeed have a flow through program. And in a couple of years AMR will draw from the hitler youth again. Go watch 24 and play with your Wii, boyee/

You know, I honestly hope you're right about the AE/AA flowthrough...right after the 2000+ AA furloughees are recalled. It would be nice for the hard work of Eagle pilots (of whom I have friends and associates) to be rewarded.

That said, how many Eagle pilots went to AA pre-9/11, and how many flushbacks came to Eagle and took all those captain vacancies?

Approx. 115 to 120 flowed through from Eagle to AA.


Approx. 600 AA furloughees took Eagle Captain seats as 'flowbAAcks'



Nice eh?

What do you care where one decides to stay?

Eagle, XJT, Skywest, all same airplanes and relatively same route structure. A regional is a regional.

Eagle may be most stable regional, but has the least movement of all the regionals.

I support any pilot who decides to stay put at a regional. They have their reasons (seniority, pay, live-in-domicile, etc).

Her point is that a 12 year CA at Pinnacle can instantly become furloughed should NWA decide to scuttle Pinnacle and transfer their aircraft to another operator. Also, Pinnacle had to bid on their own flying, putting pressure on the pilots to accept a lower-paying contract.

At least with Eagle, they are contractually obligated to do AMR's flying. AMR can't just farm out their flying left and right, or put their flying up for bid.

Of course, like you mentioned, with job stability comes lower pay/slower movement. This is the same outside aviation as it is in aviation.

IMO, pilots should be shooting to work for a company that operates on it's own. Subcontractors are easy to replace.

A quick trip down the 'History Road;...


Pinnacle:

Express I, wholly-owned by NWA, spun off after 9/11 to make NWA money. Changed name to Pinnacle

ExpressJet:

Was wholly-owned by Continental and called Continental Express, spun off around 9/11 to make Continental money.


About your PNCL comment, they just got a new ASA that is 10 years in duration. Unless PNCL goes into bankruptcy, or if the pilots strike, it seems that PNCL will continue to fly for NWA.


It's not all gloom and doom. Air Wis lost all of their United flying, but their mangement was able to become an all-US Airways Express carrier. Granted, they had to pay about $125 million and got one seat on the Board of Members at US Airways, but still.


AMR can do whatever it wishes to do with Eagle. If AMR wants to spin Eagle off, it will.

And you think AMR hasn't cheated out on Eagle?

How about giving TSA 14 AMERICAN EAGLE ERJs when TSA started as AmericanConnection out of STL?

I'm sure it was a pilot contractual violation, for Eagle planes must be flown with Eagle pilots, but we all know how that turned out.

Even Eagle is at the whim of AMR management.

[QUOTE=HotMamaPilot;110125] AMR has(or will have) a flow through program(unlike USAIR and DAL). And eagle will be around as long as AMR is. QUOTE]

There are no absolutes or guarantees in this business.

[QUOTE=org1;110186]How anyone can tout the AMR flowthrough as 'good' is beyond me.

115-120 flowed through, and close to 600 flowed bAAck.