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JohnLocke 10-11-2015 09:37 AM

Fundamental difference:

Truck drivers will not undercut each other to drive a bigger truck or to subsidize their company's truck order.

Pilots will. Pilots delude themselves and think a few months in the left seat will fast track their career. We're doomed.

CBreezy 10-11-2015 09:41 AM


Originally Posted by JohnLocke (Post 1990064)
Fundamental difference:

Truck drivers will not undercut each other to drive a bigger truck or to subsidize their company's truck order.

Pilots will. Pilots delude themselves and think a few months in the left seat will fast track their career. We're doomed.

Are you kidding? Of course they will. You're delusional if you think truckers wouldnt go drive for a cheaper company with newer trucks if it promised them a faster pay raise in the future.

pitchtrim 10-11-2015 09:47 AM

Truckers don't give a rats A hole about big shiney trucks! They are blue collard workers, working for $$ not image.

CBreezy 10-11-2015 09:49 AM


Originally Posted by pitchtrim (Post 1990073)
Truckers don't give a rats A hole about big shiney trucks! They are blue collard workers, working for $$ not image.

You're telling me a trucker wouldn't upgrade from a POS truck to one with a sleeper cab and better in cab comfort like satellite radio? I'll give you a hint, they do.

pitchtrim 10-11-2015 10:01 AM


Originally Posted by CBreezy (Post 1990077)
You're telling me a trucker wouldn't upgrade from a POS truck to one with a sleeper cab and better in cab comfort like satellite radio? I'll give you a hint, they do.

Let me reread what I wrote...yeah that's what I'm telling you. They can EASILY switch jobs that offer more pay and the sleeper cab. They don't have to give up one for the other or start at year 1 pay every time they take a better job. Really guys get some real life experience.

CBreezy 10-11-2015 10:05 AM


Originally Posted by pitchtrim (Post 1990090)
Let me reread what I wrote...yeah that's what I'm telling you. They can EASILY switch jobs that offer more pay and the sleeper cab. They don't have to give up one for the other or start at year 1 pay every time they take a better job. Really guys get some real life experience.

So, they can go to a subcontract trucking company and "undercut" big name shipping companies to get more driving, better equipment, and potential career advancement. I have real world experience. I've been in two different industries before aviation.

pitchtrim 10-11-2015 11:35 AM


Originally Posted by CBreezy (Post 1990094)
So, they can go to a subcontract trucking company and "undercut" big name shipping companies to get more driving, better equipment, and potential career advancement. I have real world experience. I've been in two different industries before aviation.

And I haven't? My father in law has been a trucker his whole life.

Poser765 10-11-2015 12:20 PM


Originally Posted by pitchtrim (Post 1990152)
And I haven't? My father in law has been a trucker his whole life.

When I drove a truck I saw a lot of the same drama there as I do in the airline industry now. in the OTR section of the industry turnover was horrendous while I was in. People would jump ship at the drop of a hat for a few cents/mile more, better millage, and yes even shinier trucks.

The LTL sector, while maybe having a bit more stability, still faced a LOT of the same problems as there are in the airlines.

At least that was my experience and not my father in law's. Of course as a driver as well, my father in law agrees with me.

pitchtrim 10-11-2015 12:36 PM

Yeah, they hop jobs for more money and sometimes better equipment too. Isn't that what I said? They aren't taking jobs for less money because the allure of flow, shiney trucks, or fast upgrades.

CBreezy 10-11-2015 12:43 PM


Originally Posted by pitchtrim (Post 1990195)
Yeah, they hop jobs for more money and sometimes better equipment too. Isn't that what I said? They aren't taking jobs for less money because the allure of flow, shiney trucks, or fast upgrades.

That's not what is happening. People are jumping jobs for quick upgrades which equals more money versus being stuck at the at maxed out FO pay. People are leaving XJT and ENY for TSA and PSA for more money and faster progression which, as many people will say, is the key to getting even more money.


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