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Old 02-09-2007 | 04:15 PM
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It would be more wrong if their pay was in the basement to begin with. Since SKYW pay is quite livable, it's not such a bad deal in my opinion.

Your opinion is what's wrong with our industry.
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Old 02-09-2007 | 04:55 PM
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There is absolutely NOTHING okay about being the Captain of a jet with 90 people onboard for $63/hour. (3 year Captain with a $3/hr override). Seriously folks let's think about this.....3 more dollars to carry almost twice as many people?????

I have a lot of friends at Skywest, but that's highway robbery. They're taking it in the poopshoot for the hope of a quick upgrade... Screwing us all over in the long run.
Not 90 seats, 76 seats. Also, you need to factor in work rules and bonuses. It ends up being almost the same as XJT.

Still, I don't think anyone would mind if they raised it
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Old 02-09-2007 | 05:29 PM
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Originally Posted by The dude
Your opinion is what's wrong with our industry.
It may be, but I'm kinda tired of getting on this forum to see the same posts appear like clockwork:

Mesa sucks!
GoJet pilots are scabs!
SkyWest isn't unionized!
Eagle has no upgrade!

Ad nauseum...Whenever things kinda die down, someone else comes along, that usually knows little about the industry, and makes a random "stir the pot" comment, usually from the above list, such as the one that started this thread. What do such "Bash Airline _____" threads accomplish?

If my approval of management's "abuse" of SkyWest's pilot group is what's wrong with this industry, I'd hate to think how you felt about my attitude towards my own company, which treats its pilots far worse.

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Not 90 seats, 76 seats. Also, you need to factor in work rules and bonuses. It ends up being almost the same as XJT.

Still, I don't think anyone would mind if they raised it
Good post palgia. Work rules are good...Everyone I've ever known that went to SkyWest said that they couldn't have been treated better by the company. Looks to me like a management/pilot relationship that other companies should maybe try to emulate, rather than scorn. But you know what, no one should go there, I'm sure it's just the Kool-Aid talking.
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Old 02-09-2007 | 05:34 PM
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Originally Posted by palgia841
Not 90 seats, 76 seats. Also, you need to factor in work rules and bonuses. It ends up being almost the same as XJT.

Still, I don't think anyone would mind if they raised it
Okay, 76 seats. But my point is the same, when you carry 52% more people for 5% more money, you are lowering the bar.
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Old 02-09-2007 | 05:44 PM
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Originally Posted by kansas
It may be, but I'm kinda tired of getting on this forum to see the same posts appear like clockwork:

Mesa sucks!
GoJet pilots are scabs!
SkyWest isn't unionized!
Eagle has no upgrade!

Ad nauseum...Whenever things kinda die down, someone else comes along, that usually knows little about the industry, and makes a random "stir the pot" comment, usually from the above list, such as the one that started this thread. What do such "Bash Airline _____" threads accomplish?

If my approval of management's "abuse" of SkyWest's pilot group is what's wrong with this industry, I'd hate to think how you felt about my attitude towards my own company, which treats its pilots far worse.



Good post palgia. Work rules are good...Everyone I've ever known that went to SkyWest said that they couldn't have been treated better by the company. Looks to me like a management/pilot relationship that other companies should maybe try to emulate, rather than scorn. But you know what, no one should go there, I'm sure it's just the Kool-Aid talking.
Kansas,

Who said "abuse"? I didn't. I am not bashing Skywest. It's a good company. But when I'm paying union dues and donating to ALPA-PAC to try to improve our profession, it's frustrating to see my fellow pilots be so shortsighted.
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Old 02-09-2007 | 05:46 PM
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Originally Posted by kansas
It may be, but I'm kinda tired of getting on this forum to see the same posts appear like clockwork:

Mesa sucks!
GoJet pilots are scabs!
SkyWest isn't unionized!
Eagle has no upgrade!

Oh, by the way.....

MESA SUCKS!
GO JET PILOTS ARE SCABS!
SKYWEST ISN'T UNIONIZED!

Eagle's upgrade will probably change in the near future....
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Old 02-09-2007 | 06:10 PM
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Air Canada Jazz pays the same for all aircraft. They CRJ700 pays the same as the Dash100. Thats a MUCH BIGGER differance than paying almost the same for the CRJs at skywest
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Old 02-09-2007 | 06:17 PM
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Kansas,

Who said "abuse"? I didn't. I am not bashing Skywest. It's a good company. But when I'm paying union dues and donating to ALPA-PAC to try to improve our profession, it's frustrating to see my fellow pilots be so shortsighted.
Alright, good. I see your point there...thanks for being more clear.

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Oh, by the way.....

MESA SUCKS!
GO JET PILOTS ARE SCABS!
SKYWEST ISN'T UNIONIZED!

Eagle's upgrade will probably change in the near future....
Ha, thanks for that, I hadn't had my dose for this hour... Yes, Eagle's upgrade will probably change. Up or down, though?
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Old 02-09-2007 | 07:19 PM
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The majority of your posts have been nothing but Skywest bashing. If you don't work there then why do you care? It seems like a lot of effort for no reason...

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Old 02-09-2007 | 07:36 PM
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[quote=kansas;115843]It may be, but I'm kinda tired of getting on this forum to see the same posts appear like clockwork:

Mesa sucks!
GoJet pilots are scabs!
SkyWest isn't unionized!
Eagle has no upgrade!

You are right.. it doest get old.

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