GoJets passes contract
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1. Hourly rate- About standard.
2. Hours you get compared to other for what you do, about 60%.
3. Long term Disability-60% of salary but then they limit it to 1000 per month. So it is really about 20% of salary. Doesn't matter, they will fire you before they ever pay you disability.
4.Minimum hours per day 4, if you work the entire 24 hour day. If you start after noon or end before 1700 then there is no guarantee for that day. Thus, 4 day trip beginning at 12:05 and ending at 16:55 the guarantee is 8 hours.
5. Promise not to fire everyone so often. They claim the post-firing procedures will not be so much of a joke anymore.
7. Gojet wins, pilots stupid.
8. Gojet remains an airline not to consider going to unless you have no other choices. When you don't make it through Envoy training, when Mesa fires you, after the FAA questions your sanity, and when you have no self respect, then come see me and we will get you signed up. Shinny jets, 80% of the flight attendants weigh under 200 lbs, shinny jets.
9. Gojet has the smartest owner in the industry without a doubt. Just look at what he got the pilots to sign!
2. Hours you get compared to other for what you do, about 60%.
3. Long term Disability-60% of salary but then they limit it to 1000 per month. So it is really about 20% of salary. Doesn't matter, they will fire you before they ever pay you disability.
4.Minimum hours per day 4, if you work the entire 24 hour day. If you start after noon or end before 1700 then there is no guarantee for that day. Thus, 4 day trip beginning at 12:05 and ending at 16:55 the guarantee is 8 hours.
5. Promise not to fire everyone so often. They claim the post-firing procedures will not be so much of a joke anymore.
7. Gojet wins, pilots stupid.
8. Gojet remains an airline not to consider going to unless you have no other choices. When you don't make it through Envoy training, when Mesa fires you, after the FAA questions your sanity, and when you have no self respect, then come see me and we will get you signed up. Shinny jets, 80% of the flight attendants weigh under 200 lbs, shinny jets.
9. Gojet has the smartest owner in the industry without a doubt. Just look at what he got the pilots to sign!
Wow, that's weak!
Who in the right mind would vote this garbage in during a pilot shortage?
#15
DJ
Joined: Sep 2011
Posts: 59
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From: 737 FO
Can someone post a summary here of the new TAs "improvements"
Pay rate
increase – Captains 7+% pay raise for CA’s, year one starts at $67.39
First Officers 1st year $36.50 can be increased to $41.00 without renegotiating, $11.75 increase over present pay
rates
. Minimum Day Pay Credit – 4 hours per day
Cancellation Pay – Once notified 100% guaranteed
Premium Pay – Open Time 150% Flagged Trips 200%
Extension and Junior Assignment Pay – clarified language, JA only twice a month not 3 Deadhead Pay – 75 %
now in 2 years 100 %
Taxi Pay – 15 min (up from 12) or actual block whichever is greater
Customs Pay – 18 min NEW!
Non Routine Flight Operations (NRFO) Pay
Flight Pay based on Marketing Times not Average Segment Times, Marketing
Times are published by legacy to DOT. This will result in a 3-6% per leg increase in pay over current pay
Drug Testing Pay –
Holiday Pay – 150% six holidays
Per Diem – Increase from $1.60 to $1.80 up to $1.90
Minimum Monthly Guarantee(MMG) – 75 hours, Line holders, Reserves, New Hires
New Aircraft Type – Baseball style arbitration. If no agreement goes to an arbitrator, time limit and pay retro to Aircraft entering service.
Greatly expanded Hotel Quality language
SECTION 7 HOURS OF SERVICE
Days Off – Line holder 12 in 31 day month, 11 in a 30 day month Reserve 11
Deadheading – after 14 hour duty day only with pilot concurrence
SECTION 8 SCHEDULING
Bidding Process – Opens on a concrete unmoved day every month
Seniority Open Time(SOT) prior to Final Bid Award, better rules
Reserve will bid PBS
Open Time that is published can be bid and awarded Expanded language on all bidding processes
Commuter Clause – Increased from 2 to 3 occurrences Waiver for major airport occurrences
Commuter hotels paid for by the company (Section 26)
SECTION 9 RESERVES
Reserve Lines – Bid through PBS
All are Awarded Long Call
LC Can be converted to SC but only twice a month
Days off can’t be moved without pilots consent
Minimum of 2 days off between Reserve Blocks unless waived
Reserve Assignments – SILO, and FIFO
Reserve availability to be made visible via the web
LC is a 12 hour call out SC is a 2 hour call out Reserve p
Pay rate
First Officers 1st year $36.50 can be increased to $41.00 without renegotiating, $11.75 increase over present pay
rates
Cancellation Pay – Once notified 100% guaranteed
Premium Pay – Open Time 150% Flagged Trips 200%
Extension and Junior Assignment Pay – clarified language, JA only twice a month not 3 Deadhead Pay – 75 %
now in 2 years 100 %
Taxi Pay – 15 min (up from 12) or actual block whichever is greater
Customs Pay – 18 min NEW!
Non Routine Flight Operations (NRFO) Pay
Flight Pay based on Marketing Times not Average Segment Times, Marketing
Times are published by legacy to DOT. This will result in a 3-6% per leg increase in pay over current pay
Drug Testing Pay –
Holiday Pay – 150% six holidays
Per Diem – Increase from $1.60 to $1.80 up to $1.90
Minimum Monthly Guarantee(MMG) – 75 hours, Line holders, Reserves, New Hires
New Aircraft Type – Baseball style arbitration. If no agreement goes to an arbitrator, time limit and pay retro to Aircraft entering service.
Greatly expanded Hotel Quality language
SECTION 7 HOURS OF SERVICE
Days Off – Line holder 12 in 31 day month, 11 in a 30 day month Reserve 11
Deadheading – after 14 hour duty day only with pilot concurrence
SECTION 8 SCHEDULING
Bidding Process – Opens on a concrete unmoved day every month
Seniority Open Time(SOT) prior to Final Bid Award, better rules
Reserve will bid PBS
Open Time that is published can be bid and awarded Expanded language on all bidding processes
Commuter Clause – Increased from 2 to 3 occurrences Waiver for major airport occurrences
Commuter hotels paid for by the company (Section 26)
SECTION 9 RESERVES
Reserve Lines – Bid through PBS
All are Awarded Long Call
LC Can be converted to SC but only twice a month
Days off can’t be moved without pilots consent
Minimum of 2 days off between Reserve Blocks unless waived
Reserve Assignments – SILO, and FIFO
Reserve availability to be made visible via the web
LC is a 12 hour call out SC is a 2 hour call out Reserve p
#16
DJ
Joined: Sep 2011
Posts: 59
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From: 737 FO
FYI this ORD rumor is absolutely false....anytime anyone uses the phrase "my buddy" on this forum...take caution.
#18
Line Holder
Joined: Dec 2015
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United did not renew 2 Skywest crj-700 contracts in Chicago so those planes are going to American in LAX. Gojet's United contracts are coming up and United freely says it doesn't want 700s in Chicago. I don't think it is a stretch to believe they will be moving those planes out of Chicago. They have already moved much of the flying out to Denver. Even much of the Skywest flying is out of Chicago, the trips start in Chicago and come back 4 days later. Skywest is getting 175s to replace the CRJs in Chicago. Gojet isn't.
I guarantee the last people to know the base is closing are the Gojet people who refuse to look at the obvious. Of course Delta or American may take the 700s. Plan on moving out of Chicago Gojet. Does anyone really want Gojet to do their flying with their recent performance? Rumor has it ...
#19
Line Holder
Joined: Nov 2014
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MrStl,
Do you work for TSA or G7? You come across like a know it all that actually fills himself with a bunch of BS. I have two good friends at G7 and they said that the company stated they renewed the contracts on the United airplanes 6 months or so ago and this was announced on a company call in show. Being that your user name is MRstl this makes me 100% sure you are a tool and most likely a management worm!!!
Do you work for TSA or G7? You come across like a know it all that actually fills himself with a bunch of BS. I have two good friends at G7 and they said that the company stated they renewed the contracts on the United airplanes 6 months or so ago and this was announced on a company call in show. Being that your user name is MRstl this makes me 100% sure you are a tool and most likely a management worm!!!
#20
Line Holder
Joined: Mar 2011
Posts: 84
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false....rumors can be neither true or false but involve the unknown. Rumor is you don't know what you are talking about while rumor has it you might be right. There is no fun in the airline world without rumors.
United did not renew 2 Skywest crj-700 contracts in Chicago so those planes are going to American in LAX. Gojet's United contracts are coming up and United freely says it doesn't want 700s in Chicago. I don't think it is a stretch to believe they will be moving those planes out of Chicago. They have already moved much of the flying out to Denver. Even much of the Skywest flying is out of Chicago, the trips start in Chicago and come back 4 days later. Skywest is getting 175s to replace the CRJs in Chicago. Gojet isn't.
I guarantee the last people to know the base is closing are the Gojet people who refuse to look at the obvious. Of course Delta or American may take the 700s. Plan on moving out of Chicago Gojet. Does anyone really want Gojet to do their flying with their recent performance? Rumor has it ...
United did not renew 2 Skywest crj-700 contracts in Chicago so those planes are going to American in LAX. Gojet's United contracts are coming up and United freely says it doesn't want 700s in Chicago. I don't think it is a stretch to believe they will be moving those planes out of Chicago. They have already moved much of the flying out to Denver. Even much of the Skywest flying is out of Chicago, the trips start in Chicago and come back 4 days later. Skywest is getting 175s to replace the CRJs in Chicago. Gojet isn't.
I guarantee the last people to know the base is closing are the Gojet people who refuse to look at the obvious. Of course Delta or American may take the 700s. Plan on moving out of Chicago Gojet. Does anyone really want Gojet to do their flying with their recent performance? Rumor has it ...
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