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Originally Posted by sammysuperjet
(Post 2094652)
New guy here!
I'm looking for some advise from you Gurus. I want the flow as a plan B since other regionals don't have it. So should I go with PSA ENVOY or PDT? |
Originally Posted by sammysuperjet
(Post 2095116)
Thanks for the response!
After having more than 3,000 pic in turbo props, 1500 pic jet time and more than 8,000 hours total time I had come to realize that without knowing someone important in one of the legacy airlines or without a flow program it will be 1,000 times harder for me to get hired at a major. |
Originally Posted by Riverside
(Post 2094684)
Since you're incapable of doing a search function or taking the time to read. Here ya go.
http://www.airlinepilotforums.com/re...01-please.html |
If the OP ends up at a major before I do (as someone who is at a regional without a flow), you might as well just paint me red and stick a crowbar up my nose.
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Originally Posted by sammysuperjet
(Post 2095116)
Thanks for the response!
After having more than 3,000 pic in turbo props, 1500 pic jet time and more than 8,000 hours total time I had come to realize that without knowing someone important in one of the legacy airlines or without a flow program it will be 1,000 times harder for me to get hired at a major. |
Envoy is the best regional airline for new hires without previous 121 time. Sure, eight year upgrades and pilot's flowing with 2000 hire dates don't look favorable right now but you must time it right and get ahead of the wave.
Envoy's been going down for awhile. They've hit rock bottom and are just now stabilizing enough to become attractive. Envoy has a large percentage of lifers which helps with the flow for junior pilots. Envoy didn't hire for a long period of time and not many FOs on the list between 2012 and now will cause the upgrade times to go really junior in about 1.5 years from now. A low time pilot hired today will need 1.5 years to reach 1000 hours of 121. Once Envoy has a 1.5 year upgrade, new hire classes will be increase in size. I would get ahead of the wave and go their now if I was new to industry without previous 121 time. Envoy has the same flow-through formula as Piedmont for new hires. Envoy has a decent overall FO compensation with their recent bonuses. |
Originally Posted by gold
(Post 2095465)
Envoy is the best regional airline for new hires. http://www.airlinepilotforums.com/re...-you-pick.html Only Mesa polled worse in that poll, which is less than 2 months old. |
Originally Posted by SayAlt
(Post 2095471)
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http://www.airlinepilotforums.com/re...-you-pick.html Only Mesa polled worse. |
Originally Posted by gold
(Post 2095480)
Many regional pilots are too polarized with short term opportunities and ignore long term future potential.
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Originally Posted by gold
(Post 2095465)
Envoy is the best regional airline for new hires without previous 121 time. Sure, eight year upgrades and pilot's flowing with 2000 hire dates don't look favorable right now but you must time it right and get ahead of the wave.
Envoy's been going down for awhile. They've hit rock bottom and are just now stabilizing enough to become attractive. Envoy has a large percentage of lifers which helps with the flow for junior pilots. Envoy didn't hire for a long period of time and not many FOs on the list between 2012 and now will cause the upgrade times to go really junior in about 1.5 years from now. A low time pilot hired today will need 1.5 years to reach 1000 hours of 121. Once Envoy has a 1.5 year upgrade, new hire classes will be increase in size. I would get ahead of the wave and go their now if I was new to industry without previous 121 time. Envoy has the same flow-through formula as Piedmont for new hires. Envoy has a decent overall FO compensation with their recent bonuses. had taken the time to show me some light either towards PDT or ENVOY. After making a good analysis of the current industry or possible situations, I had finally concluded that Envoy will be the smartest choice. Not only because of flow but stability as well. |
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