interview travel/pilot shortage
 

What is the logic behind the fact, when invited for an interview the airline provide only domestic travel and not international travel for the interview.

I am an American living abroad
In this context, the pilot shortage will not be so bad at all

It used to be that you didn't even get that. Does Air Wisconsin still just give you a gift card to differ some of the costs to interview?

Because a domestic flight costs a couple hundred whereas an international flights is a couple thousand...

Yeah. The Clarion crew rate is $70, gift card is $100.

A flight AMS to JFK is cheaper than SFO to JFK

That's what happens when you buy from cheapoair.

Interview is stupid to begin with, in this climate.

Hey, aren't you at Mesa?

Pricing for flights is MASSIVELY VARIABLE.
Example: 1 way GRB-ORD-LGA, short notice $124.
1 way ORD-GRB, short notice, a week later, $1280.

Some intntl is expensive.
Cheapest flight 2 weeks ago ORD-SGN round trip under $450 coach.

Yes
Filler

Should they just give you the job because you say you have a pilots license and therefore must be cool and awesome?

That's what they do at Mesa.

Anyone who believes this is an idiot. You are given a class date, you don't have the job until you pass IOE and are flying the line.
Tell me, why does spending tons of money to fly people to an interview, to ask you stupid questions, that could be answered over the phone, make any sense? You still have to prove yourself in training, regardless. Only thing that Mesa can't do is discriminate against you for being ugly.

Lucky for you!!! Ha

I wish you were trolling

Wow, just wow. Good luck on the interviews!

I recently interviewed with one of the regionals at MSP, they flew my co-pilot and my self from STI, they payed for everything, including the round trip air ticket.

If they are willing to do that, they might as well just given you a class date, saved the silly dog and pony show for something else

how many interviews did you get the TBNT after?

Delta will not provide a ticket for the interview if you are overseas. Demestic ticket only.

The context I mean is : they are trying to attract pilots with bonuses, but an airline ticket for overseas travel is too much

It is probably due to no-shows. The regionals have a negotiated rate for positive space travel and they pay big penalties for no-shows. I know of one regional that stopped bringing interviewees to interviews on a certain airline due to no-shows.

That would be a logical explanation,and that would explain their travelpolicies

They only hire F/A's over the phone... or so it would seem.

So you're telling me Delta and virtually every other airline is doing it all wrong? :rolleyes:

iFlyRC is trying to self-justify going to Mesa.

65$ hr is my justification.

How's that working out after you subtract the cost of your health insurance?

Yep, by his logic, all airlines should just do away with the stupid formality of actually getting to know a person via an interview before making an offer of employment.

I can't imagine why the majors don't just offer class dates to anybody and everybody. If they make it through training that's all that matters, and therefore they must be good enough. If it's good enough for Mesa, of course it's good enough for every other airline, right ???

iFlyRC, do you have any idea how much it costs to put a new hire through training? How much money does Mesa waste when 40% of their pilots wash out of training? And many more borderline pilots who use twice the sim sessions and two or three times the normal amount of IOE just to finish training. Sounds like Mesa is a class A organization and everyone else should conform to their standards.
What happens when one of these pilots with multiple multiple checkride failures and 80 hours of IOE bends some metal? How is the media and public going to react?
Now I know this does not include every Mesa pilot. They have some very classy and great pilots I am sure, but they sure don't weed out the people who have no business being in the cockpit of an airliner.
Who wants to be at an airline where just anybody can walk into training? Take some pride in where you start your career. You may end up getting stuck there awhile.

Good thing, or I'd never have gotten hired!

An interview can't determine their ability to pass training. Their PRIA record tells more.

REALLY?!!! So you are telling me someone who doesn't know how to hold, gets off altitude by 800 feet, and nearly stalls the sim on a non-precision approach has the same chance of passing training as the guy who shows up prepared and can fly a flawless sim evaluation?
I'm sorry, you are right. A PRIA from "Ed's Flight School and Crop-dusting" gives the airline much more insight than a full interview.
Pilots like you are so scared to actually have to prove their abilities during an interview. That's why you complain that other airlines do a decent vetting process. You took the path of least resistance. That's fine. But don't complain when other airlines want to hire more ambitious pilots who prove themselves during an interview.

Don't even need the phone interview to know I wouldn't hire you.

Which regional is still doing sim evals?

If I was in charge of hiring, I would disqualify everyone from Envoy

I'm an American living overseas also...it's part of the cost of being overseas that you'll be paying your own travel.

If you want to work at a regional just quit your overseas job, move back to USA, and find a job. Most regionals are looking to fill classes today, not months in the future.

That's not true. When I interviewed with PSA I told them that I'd like a black S500 to receive me at the airport. I need the interior of that car to be 71 degrees exactly.

Was that from elf?

The ones with a new hire pass rate of 95%.