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Name User 05-14-2016 09:19 AM


Originally Posted by dewpoint (Post 2128901)
I've been at Republic about 10 months and already made more than $50k. It can be done easily.

That's counting gross wages, per diem, and 401(k) benefits. Should be close to $60k first year.

OK...per diem as wages...whatever, if you want to count that who cares...but 401k contributions are NOT income, dear God, is this how far we've fallen?!?

aviationfrk 05-14-2016 10:25 AM


Originally Posted by WMUFlyboy1 (Post 2127527)
Endeavor isn't going anywhere. Both the company and union agree that the bonus will be extended beyond 2018, there is currently just a disagreement on how it will be paid. The union wants it rolled into pay rates while the company wants it as a bonus still. There isn't a doubt that it will continue, just HOW it will continue.

Is this in writing anywhere or perhaps implied?

amcnd 05-14-2016 12:40 PM


Originally Posted by aviationfrk (Post 2129013)
Is this in writing anywhere or perhaps implied?

Roll it into pay rates.. Bonus programs come and go. Pay rates don't..

Lvlng4Spd 05-14-2016 01:24 PM


Originally Posted by Name User (Post 2128963)
OK...per diem as wages...whatever, if you want to count that who cares...but 401k contributions are NOT income, dear God, is this how far we've fallen?!?

Depending on how you spend when you are on the road, per diem could be a gain. I try to spend 40-50% of my per diem as a rule and use the rest towards paying down any debt or adding to our savings. For me that is 250-350 per month tax free I haven't spent a dime for.

Name User 05-14-2016 02:06 PM


Originally Posted by Lvlng4Spd (Post 2129104)
Depending on how you spend when you are on the road, per diem could be a gain. I try to spend 40-50% of my per diem as a rule and use the rest towards paying down any debt or adding to our savings. For me that is 250-350 per month tax free I haven't spent a dime for.

Per diem is a great benefit if not spent, I spend around $5/day on average...but this guy was including his company 401k contributions in his 'income' figure, did you even read what my post was about?

Lvlng4Spd 05-14-2016 02:29 PM

[QUOTE=Name User;2129118]Per diem is a great benefit if not spent, I spend around $5/day on average...but this guy was including his company 401k contributions in his 'income' figure, did you even read what my post was about?[/QU

Yes, of course I read it. It seemed you were taking a dim view of per diem as income as well. We agree that it's circumstantial, as long as you don't become the Wolf of Wall Street on overnights. I also agree that company 401k additions shouldn't be counted. That is income for later on...takes time to become vested, etc...

NewOldGuy 05-14-2016 02:36 PM

The bigger point is the chart simply shows the pay floor at each regional. You have the potential to earn much more at each and every one of them. It doesn't reflect ceilings.


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dewpoint 05-15-2016 03:32 AM


Originally Posted by Lvlng4Spd (Post 2129133)
I also agree that company 401k additions shouldn't be counted. That is income for later on...takes time to become vested, etc...

I am 100% vested. Anyway, subtracting per diem and not counting the benefits, I will still make more than $50k in the first 12 months.

Ellen 05-15-2016 06:35 AM


Originally Posted by daOldMan (Post 2126845)
Over $100,000 for the first 3 years is now the baseline industry standard.

With the retention bonus at the AA WO regionals, all current FO's will make over $120,000 in 3 years.

Closer it $155k if you keep credit high each month and include per diem.

This seems like a lot but it's not. Don't be fooled by the big #'s, remember there is the denominator component that the regionals will use to whittle away your earnings.

Also, it's best you delve deeper than wages. Look at business models, who their customers are, current business practices, work rules, union vs. non-Union, bio's of leadership, history of pay negotiations, unity of pilot group, trip mix, schedules, benefits, 401k's, success of training departments, etc.

WhiskeyKilo 05-15-2016 07:00 AM


Originally Posted by E175 Driver (Post 2128959)
This is one thing that attracts me to this company. Not to crazy about the CRJ flying though.

You would not fit in at Endeavor anyway.


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