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lakehouse 05-25-2016 04:52 AM

You all forget I'm a 6 year regional fo not by choice, commuting from a previous base.

I get it, but the Pac is the only thing that's going to prevent all of us from having no career at all in 15 year. You'd be begging for your little sub contractor job back when your digging holes.

Slick111 05-25-2016 05:27 AM


Originally Posted by Celeste (Post 2134913)
If you ever want a job at mainline, this should concern you. NAI is exploiting tax laws, labor laws, aviaton laws of various countries to get an unfair advantage. They are cherry picking different countries...............

Here's a question: Why does ALPA see it as THEIR job to fight NAI? Why don't we just leave it up to mainline airline management to fight "unfair" competition? A.P.A, S.W.P.A., A.F.A., and others don't appear to give two schits about NAI. Why does ALPA have their shorts in such a bunch over this.

More importantly, why won't ALPA pick a fight that (1) they can WIN and (2) will improve the lives of ALL of its members? Why is ALPA not demonstrating the same fervor and using the same resources (that they are wasting on NAI), to get us out of the ridiculous and antiquated Railway Labor Act?

You want to talk about "unfair" practices? Let's talk about the way airline managements have unfairly used the RLA to stall contract negotiations for up to a decade for some pilot groups, knowing that their employees hands are tied and negotiating positions are severely limited. THAT,..... is a PAC that I could get behind!

Until ALPA starts fighting for the regionals,....... they shouldn't be begging for money from the regionals.

Day4mx 05-25-2016 05:45 AM

Think of all the money alpa could use to fight nai if they weren't paying secretaries and envelope stuffers $175k.

Lvlng4Spd 05-25-2016 06:04 AM

Let's start a PAC against PACs. Let chaos reign!

iFlyRC 05-25-2016 06:16 AM

The fact the entire process is pay to play indicates that it is time for a reboot

MiLa 05-25-2016 07:13 AM


Originally Posted by Slick111 (Post 2134988)
Here's a question: Why does ALPA see it as THEIR job to fight NAI? Why don't we just leave it up to mainline airline management to fight "unfair" competition? A.P.A, S.W.P.A., A.F.A., and others don't appear to give two schits about NAI. Why does ALPA have their shorts in such a bunch over this.

More importantly, why won't ALPA pick a fight that (1) they can WIN and (2) will improve the lives of ALL of its members? Why is ALPA not demonstrating the same fervor and using the same resources (that they are wasting on NAI), to get us out of the ridiculous and antiquated Railway Labor Act?

You want to talk about "unfair" practices? Let's talk about the way airline managements have unfairly used the RLA to stall contract negotiations for up to a decade for some pilot groups, knowing that their employees hands are tied and negotiating positions are severely limited. THAT,..... is a PAC that I could get behind!

Until ALPA starts fighting for the regionals,....... they shouldn't be begging for money from the regionals.

I would disagree about AFA, APA, etc. not caring. All were present in the picketing in D.C., along with numerous other industry labor unions affected by this. In fact the president of AFA gave one of the best speeches of the day... And I also think that NAI is something that will affect ALL ALPA members because of the affect it could have an career prospects...

ckelley 05-25-2016 07:15 AM

The ALPA PAC is AFL/CIO.
Why not cut out the middleman (middleperson, sorry) and donate directly to the Democratic National Committee.
Their carbon tax they say is needed to save the world will hurt you way more than NAI.


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