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lakehouse 05-23-2016 06:04 PM

All alpa member back the Pac!!
 
Please everyone take one minute to back the pac, even 1 dollar a month, please take a second to select a month due check off for the pac.

It's your very effective and powerful voice in DC in the massive money driven political machine. Every alpa pilot should be donating something monthly. Love or hate alpa this is not the place to voice your opinion. This is your political lobby that is doing all they can and working well protecting your actual career.

http://www.alpa.org/~/link.aspx?_id=80E4FDCAA26C450B81CBC7B5ADF550EC&_z= z

payingdues 05-24-2016 05:57 PM

haha yeah i remember that time ALPA stood up for the regionals.... man were loaded down here. id love to support the pac... oh wait were EFFINING broke. what a joke. if we had a regional union id support it. but you know whats wild....the majors pilots could just vote us all in. but nahhh were gonna play the silly interview game. evennthough regionals contribute roughly 50% of the flights in mainline systems. but yeah screw NAI right. they must really exploit labor....oh wait....AAG, UAL, and DAL already do. why should i give a fuggg. country is already heading towards socialism anyway.

Bartender 05-24-2016 06:38 PM

Tell you what. I'll back the PAC when ALPA backs the regional pilot. Until then I can't afford it. Go ask a mainline pilot for my buck.

Mandrake 05-24-2016 06:55 PM


Originally Posted by lakehouse (Post 2134188)
Please everyone take one minute to back the pac, even 1 dollar a month, please take a second to select a month due check off for the pac.

It's your very effective and powerful voice in DC in the massive money driven political machine. Every alpa pilot should be donating something monthly. Love or hate alpa this is not the place to voice your opinion. This is your political lobby that is doing all they can and working well protecting your actual career.

http://www.alpa.org/~/link.aspx?_id=80E4FDCAA26C450B81CBC7B5ADF550EC&_z= z

username checks out

Celeste 05-24-2016 08:24 PM

I'd love to help out fighting NAI and such, but I'm tapped out. Not much of my RJ FO salary left at the end of the month after rent for my 575 sqft apartment, rediculous insurance premiums, the check engine light that just came on in my 15 year old car, student loans, and nearly 2% alpa dues.

Maybe one of these mainline captains making close to 10x my salary, that is having the dilemma of choosing between getting a new corvette or a new boat for his vacation house this summer can pick up my alpa pac tab...

Lvlng4Spd 05-24-2016 08:28 PM


Originally Posted by lakehouse (Post 2134188)
Please everyone take one minute to back the pac, even 1 dollar a month, please take a second to select a month due check off for the pac.

It's your very effective and powerful voice in DC in the massive money driven political machine. Every alpa pilot should be donating something monthly. Love or hate alpa this is not the place to voice your opinion. This is your political lobby that is doing all they can and working well protecting your actual career.

http://www.alpa.org/~/link.aspx?_id=80E4FDCAA26C450B81CBC7B5ADF550EC&_z= z

Not a chance in Hell. The fact that we have to "lobby" for what is right is a big crock of ****. I'll give my hard-earned money to people in need and those who deserve it.

CAirBear 05-24-2016 08:35 PM

Did you really think this post, in the regional threads, was going to go well for you?

I don't believe everything ALPA says. No one has 100% undeniable proof beyond a reasonable doubt, that IF NAI is allowed here that our profession and mainline jobs will go to ****.

I do not buy that at all.

Day4mx 05-24-2016 08:40 PM


Originally Posted by CAirBear (Post 2134879)
Did you really think this post, in the regional threads, was going to go well for you?

I don't believe everything ALPA says. No one has 100% undeniable proof beyond a reasonable doubt, that IF NAI is allowed here that our profession and mainline jobs will go to ****.

I do not buy that at all.

Idk man that cork to Boston route could shut us all down.

Celeste 05-25-2016 12:01 AM


Originally Posted by CAirBear (Post 2134879)
Did you really think this post, in the regional threads, was going to go well for you?

I don't believe everything ALPA says. No one has 100% undeniable proof beyond a reasonable doubt, that IF NAI is allowed here that our profession and mainline jobs will go to ****.

I do not buy that at all.

If you ever want a job at mainline, this should concern you. NAI is exploiting tax laws, labor laws, aviaton laws of various countries to get an unfair advantage. They are cherry picking different countries to base different parts of the operation at to cut expenses to a minimum. This is what happened to the maritime industry and now it is largely nonexistent. Granted, this won't have an effect on domestic flights, but there will likely be a loss in international routes and revenue, and therefore, jobs.

Just look at what the middle east carriers have done to routes to the middle east, with their government subsidies and access to really cheap fuel. How many us airlines are running routes to these places? United recently stopped flying to dubai because they couldn't compete up with emirates and etihad and still make a profit.


To the OP:

You're going to have a hard time getting this group to care. ALPA didn't seem to care when this type of thing was happening in their back yard, and lots of us have been screwed by it. We've been stuck in these jobs with poverty wages, $h!*** work rules, working 18-20 days a month, only to make $25-30k per year. For those of us who do care, we've already taken the time to write and call our congressmen, but that's all we can do. We're struggling to make ends meet, and there's no money to spare. Whatever extra money we can scrape together we have to spend on job fairs, apps, interview (hundreds to thousands $$) just to have the small chance that we can get out of this regional h*!!hole that the pilots at the majors (and alpa) created for us.

Metering 05-25-2016 03:40 AM

You know what? I already give ALPA money out of my pitiful regional FO salary.

When ALPA gets off their bloated asses and realize that regional flying is JUST as time consuming (More than Mainline), difficult (in most cases more than mainline) and just as heavy in the realm of responsibility (lets face it, flying 6 legs a day requires MUCH more focus than 1 or 2 legs) as mainline flying and backs Regional airlines and their pilots, maybe then - when regional pilot pay is negotiated to something more than pathetic - we would be able to afford to spend MORE on a Union that clearly doesn't care about the "little guys".


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