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Originally Posted by USMCFLYR
(Post 2139268)
It isn't :confused:
Seems Wiki and the DoT classify it as a Group III 'major' airline https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Majo..._United_States Air Carrier Groupings | Bureau of Transportation Statistics Either way, it's a misleading article. |
No way. It's totally a major like Envoy and Skywest on the exact same list as Delta, United and American. They're all majors and the same because they're on a list together.
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Originally Posted by Skyooopilot791
(Post 2139481)
Only way this will work is if frontier starts paying in training and Silver starts paying people correctly to get people in the door.... |
Originally Posted by abusdriver
(Post 2139498)
Not arguing the merits of this program, but just wanted to correct you. Frontier DOES pay during training. You get monthly guarantee (which 1st year and subsequent are crap relative to industry) starting day one. With that being said, you are responsible for your own lodging. Benefits start 1st of the month following your hire date.
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Originally Posted by AlaskaBound
(Post 2139484)
It's considered a National or LCC. Major airlines have to have a revenue of $1billion to be considered a major. Also it would be considered a Group II not a group III.
Either way, it's a misleading article. So to help all of those others who wish to at least know the right terms when discussing aviation and using facts - I'll post the relevant parts of both the Wiki link (but of course who can trust Wiki right ;)) and the DoT link. WIKI: "The United States Department of Transportation defines a major carrier or major airline carrier as a U.S.-based airline that posts more than $1 billion in revenue during a fiscal year.[1] The term "major carrier" or "major airline" can also refer to traditional legacy carriers, distinguishing them from startup and low-cost carriers." As of January 2015, there were 18 major carriers:[1] Mainline passengerEdit
"Changes in the reporting groups are effective January 1, 2016. Any questions regarding the groupings should be directed to [email protected] (link sends e-mail). William Chadwick Jr. Director Office of Airline Information Attachment GROUP III AIR CARRIERS - 18 CARRIER Alaska Airlines Allegiant Air American Airlines Atlas Air Delta Air Lines Envoy Express Jet Federal Express Frontier Airlines Hawaiian Airlines Jet Blue Polar Air Cargo SkyWest Southwest Airlines Spirit Airlines United Airlines UPS Virgin America" |
Just like grunts and POGs are the same cause they're in a category together.
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Don't know much about Frontier, but it sounds like some place to obtain an Airbus type short run then scram off to a real major that pays.
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Originally Posted by Apokleros
(Post 2139585)
Don't know much about Frontier, but it sounds like some place to obtain an Airbus type short run then scram off to a real major that pays.
if your losing like 5 to 10 people a month and your only taking in like maybe 2 to 6 people a month if they are lucky, the company is going to say they can't afford to lose anyone to the flow and it will be held off. Either way you don't even have to wait for 1000 PIC at this point in the industry to be able to leave and go somewhere else other then Frontier and get paid better.
Originally Posted by abusdriver
(Post 2139498)
Not arguing the merits of this program, but just wanted to correct you. Frontier DOES pay during training. You get monthly guarantee (which 1st year and subsequent are crap relative to industry) starting day one. With that being said, you are responsible for your own lodging. Benefits start 1st of the month following your hire date.
But either way if your paying for your hotel you may as well not consider it being paid, because most if not all your money is going to the hotel and food to do frontier training. Which as chris said
Originally Posted by chrisreedrules
(Post 2139540)
Eh... That's crappy.
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