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Makanakis 06-03-2016 01:51 AM

Silver & Frontier launch career program
 
Silver Airways and Frontier Airlines Launch Pilot Career Program

JayBee 06-03-2016 03:54 AM

How long to get MCO as a base for a new hire at Silver ?

AlaskaBound 06-03-2016 06:28 AM

“The professional pilot job market is rapidly evolving and this will put Silver Airways and Frontier in a highly competitive position, while offering current and future pilots a solid path to a career with a major airline.”

First of all Frontier is NOT a major airline. Second of all they need to build 1000 PIC at Silver before getting recommended to Frontier? A Silver captain with half or a quarter of that PIC that could get hired at a real major. No need to wait til 1000 PIC. That's just a retention clause right there. Sneaky.

FlyingKat 06-03-2016 06:47 AM


Originally Posted by AlaskaBound (Post 2139254)
“The professional pilot job market is rapidly evolving and this will put Silver Airways and Frontier in a highly competitive position, while offering current and future pilots a solid path to a career with a major airline.”

First of all Frontier is NOT a major airline. Second of all they need to build 1000 PIC at Silver before getting recommended to Frontier? A Silver captain with half or a quarter of that PIC that could get hired at a real major. No need to wait til 1000 PIC. That's just a retention clause right there. Sneaky.

Yeah conditional language all over the place. Want to bet that letter of rec gets withheld until Silver can afford to let you go? This is nice to have, but calling it a flow is dubious at best.

USMCFLYR 06-03-2016 06:48 AM


Originally Posted by AlaskaBound (Post 2139254)
“The professional pilot job market is rapidly evolving and this will put Silver Airways and Frontier in a highly competitive position, while offering current and future pilots a solid path to a career with a major airline.”

First of all Frontier is NOT a major airline. Second of all they need to build 1000 PIC at Silver before getting recommended to Frontier? A Silver captain with half or a quarter of that PIC that could get hired at a real major. No need to wait til 1000 PIC. That's just a retention clause right there. Sneaky.

It isn't :confused:

Seems Wiki and the DoT classify it as a Group III 'major' airline

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Majo..._United_States

Air Carrier Groupings | Bureau of Transportation Statistics

penaltybox 06-03-2016 08:12 AM

So you're telling me I can work for one of the lowest paid regionals so I can go work for the lowest paying LCC?

prex8390 06-03-2016 08:23 AM

About as sketch as that 135 operator last year that offered a "flow" to psa.

Flyhayes 06-03-2016 09:32 AM

https://globenewswire.com/news-relea...R-AIRWAYS.html

"Pilots who currently fly for Great Lakes Airlines or Silver Airways also will be eligible and encouraged to participate in the Career Pilot Program. Depending on staffing needs at the regional airlines."

This is the killer right here, Silver will never let go of their pilots.

Purpleanga 06-03-2016 11:58 AM


Originally Posted by Flyhayes (Post 2139368)
https://globenewswire.com/news-relea...R-AIRWAYS.html

"Pilots who currently fly for Great Lakes Airlines or Silver Airways also will be eligible and encouraged to participate in the Career Pilot Program. Depending on staffing needs at the regional airlines."

This is the killer right here, Silver will never let go of their pilots.

This is a total scam. I know for a fact Frontier doesn't need this to hire pilots. Who knows how much they're getting from gla and silver for this.

Skyooopilot791 06-03-2016 12:32 PM

Let's put it like this, before this silver didn't have enough pilots and even after this silver will not have enough pilots for a flow to work. People at silver had options to go to frontier before this and said no because frontier doesn't pay you in training.... so I don't really think things will change much there for now.


Only way this will work is if frontier starts paying in training and Silver starts paying people correctly to get people in the door. It's really hard to say if they will. During my time there which ended sometime back, they didn't seem to care about the pilots feelings not one bit.

And time to go from IAD will depend on them hiring more people. With the amount of people leaving to go to other places it could take awhile if they plan to keep IAD open and how badly they want to staff IAD over the other bases. And I wouldn't tell you to pick TPA base over MCO due to so few pilots in TPA. You will not be able to do any schedule changes due to lack of coverage unless you get someone to trade with you.


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