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deskflier 06-19-2016 07:06 PM

Have a friend who works at PSA and says it's the worst career decision of his life. He said even Mesa would have been better for more reasons he could
List. He said he would never recommend anyone to an eagle Carrier?!?!

Mistek89 06-19-2016 07:07 PM

Mesa doesn't have a flow , good insurance if it does ever workout

deskflier 06-19-2016 07:10 PM


Originally Posted by Mistek89 (Post 2147875)
Mesa doesn't have a flow , good insurance if it does ever workout

So you're saying flow to American from a wholely owned carrier isn't possible in 3 years?

Mistek89 06-19-2016 07:14 PM

We all know the 2.5/6 yr projection won't happen for a while , I am optimistic the flow might be possible in 8-10 yrs . All depends if they can hire or if they will flow everyone off property and close the doors or just staple everyone into the AA seniority list

eaglefly 06-19-2016 07:36 PM


Originally Posted by Ar Pilot (Post 2147800)
While I don't understand what Parker is doing (besides being at the helm of an airline making billions of dollars), I love when pilots criticize airline management as if they're completely incompetent and are somehow inept.

Really ?

Have you seen AAG's debt load recently along the stock buy-back scheme of buying stock back at substantially more then it's worth or how about doubling down on fleet choices that are becoming obsolete because of the inability to acquire a critical part (a First Officer) in opposition to the rest of the industry ?

Just curious, but exactly what do you see as "competent" in regard to the majority of AAG's post merger moves ?

CrosswindSolo 06-19-2016 11:09 PM

IMHO, I believe the shortage at the WOs are because Parker and AAG in general have created such a hostile environment at the WOs that potential new hires avoid in favor of better pilot-management relations for an overall better QOL at a regional. For example, SkyWest and Endeavor, who are leading on the recruiting front.

eaglefly 06-20-2016 03:30 AM


Originally Posted by CrosswindSolo (Post 2147943)
IMHO, I believe the shortage at the WOs are because Parker and AAG in general have created such a hostile environment at the WOs that potential new hires avoid in favor of better pilot-management relations for an overall better QOL at a regional. For example, SkyWest and Endeavor, who are leading on the recruiting front.

Parker doesn't dictate working environments at the WO's, the individual regional managements do. From what I've read, Envoy seems to stand apart as the airline with the most disregard for the interests of its pilots. The lack of new-hires looks to be more a function of the lack of candy (shiny new mini-Airbuses) at the three that the kids today crave.

That and the fact there really aren't many pilots available to begin with.

chrisreedrules 06-20-2016 05:01 AM


Originally Posted by deskflier (Post 2147873)
Have a friend who works at PSA and says it's the worst career decision of his life. He said even Mesa would have been better for more reasons he could
List. He said he would never recommend anyone to an eagle Carrier?!?!

Yea I don't know about that. Sounds a little dramatic. If it's so bad it isn't too late for your friend to jump ship and head on over to Mesa.

Smutter 06-20-2016 05:03 AM


Originally Posted by Ar Pilot (Post 2147800)
While I don't understand what Parker is doing (besides being at the helm of an airline making billions of dollars), I love when pilots criticize airline management as if they're completely incompetent and are somehow inept.

So are you saying Parker and Kirby aren't inept?

scottm 06-20-2016 05:29 AM


Originally Posted by Ar Pilot (Post 2147800)
While I don't understand what Parker is doing (besides being at the helm of an airline making billions of dollars), I love when pilots criticize airline management as if they're completely incompetent and are somehow inept.

Stock prices are a bit like yoga pants. If your fundamentals aren't good, this is where they will be revealed. AAG is doubling-down on what worked when there was plenty of cheap labor, which is not the present or anywhere in the foreseeable future. Parker is a smart man, and competent, but a lot of dismal failures have been smart and competent and initially successful. It is possible Parker's success has led him to stop getting or listening to badly needed advice.


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